chinese chess (Xiangqi)

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I m playing in  the web "play ok" with western pieces is more easy,  the difficult is to calculate tactics with jump canyon  and many rules: elephant only two squares, knight blocked with one piece or pawn ,  King only with right  and side no diagonal movement.

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I'm also learning Chinese in  Hanbridge Mandarin school, my teachers would teach me chess(xiangqi),I find it very interesting!

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I'm also learning Chinese in  Hanbridge Mandarin school, my teachers would teach me chess(xiangqi),I find it very interesting

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I'm Vietnamese who want to learn Xiangqi by Chinese but it's hard to search the Chinese document on the internet. I have my own blog: http://danhcotuong.org/, but I rather use the English source. Do you recommend some of Chinese website which teach Xiangqi?

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There have been a few books about it in English.

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May anyone make a recommendation about good xiangq software for PC? Ideally for me it would be one with a great number of levels in order to "go up the ladder" little by little. Thanks in advance.

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I play chinese chess with this App on my mobil phone:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freeman.chess&hl=de

There are challenges, single player, multi player and you can learn how to move the pieces at the beginner area. 

It is really nice 

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I already have it, thank you very much. I was just trying to find something for the computer in order to be able to use more options, as more levels from easy to difficult.

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There is something for the Computer.

http://www.zillions-of-games.com/

There you can find also other variations of chess like japanese chess, chinese chess, Go, etc.

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Thank you so much. I will absolutely try it.

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I have zillions of games  which is good for the casual player but if you want a higher quality product there is Pascal Tangs Xie Xie Master 

 

http://www.cc-xiexie.com/home.php

 

The free version is fine for casual players too but paying a small fee to unlock the full version is worth it imo.

 

You can also play online (against mostly Chinese/ Vietnamese players presumably) at 

 

https://www.clubxiangqi.com

 

However the players there tend to play very quickly which can be off-putting if you like to ponder moves for a few minutes

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CHEssGUEVARA wrote:

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I am curious about it though.  Bobby Fischer invented Chess960 because he said the game was "dead".  I really do think there should be some new layouts for the pieces in someway.  Do you guys know if Xiangqi has the same issue?  Specifically are the openings and what not well figured out with no emphasis on creativity but being well "booked"?

 

There are  actually fewer openings in Xiang Qi than Western Chess, so there is less "theory". However XiangQi can get extremely tactical within 6 or 7 moves. And Bobby Fischer was a complete asshole whose opinions shouldn't persuade anyone.

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Thanks Edwin. I have downloaded it and I will try it.

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hblume wrote:

xiangqi (chinese chess) is a fascinating counterpart to what is formally known as international chess — what chess.com is all about. more people worldwide play x. than ic, which is not surprising, given the population of china, and beyond that, asia.

what's more interesting is that xiangqi is just as interesting. it's chess all right, but different enough to be intriguing to an ic player like me, to the point where i divide my time between the two flavors.

anyway my friend jim (aka yi zhi shen gong), a bilingual surgeon practicing in taiwan, has just launched a xiangqi site for english speakers: xqinenglish.com.

check out the "white-face general" checkmates in "basic kills".

the "king" is often known as the "general" in xiangqi, since chinese kings aka emperors frowned on being killed even in a game.

if you understand these white-face general mates you are getting the point of xiangqi.

 

hblume wrote: xiangqi (chinese chess) is a fascinating counterpart to what is formally known as international chess — what chess.com is all about. more people worldwide play x. than ic, which is not surprising, given the population of china, and beyond that, asia.what's more interesting is that xiangqi is just as interesting. it's chess all right, but different enough to be intriguing to an ic player like me, to the point where i divide my time between the two flavors.anyway my friend jim (aka yi zhi shen gong), a bilingual surgeon practicing in taiwan, has just launched a xiangqi site for english speakers: xqinenglish.com.check out the "white-face general" checkmates in "basic kills".the "king" is often known as the "general" in xiangqi, since chinese kings aka emperors frowned on being killed even in a game.if you understand these white-face general mates you are getting the point of xiangqi. 

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Here is a recently created youtube channel with beginning Xiangqi lessons in English:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8R8a8CqVw0&t=5s

 

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waffllemaster wrote:

Yeah, it's just as amazing as ic, except of course for the fact that half your non-pawns can't cross the middle of the board, and three of them are confined to a 3x3 area.

Maybe it's a case of you love what you learned first, but it just don't see the appeal.

I don't play lacrosse.

In lacrosse, the goalie stays in the goal area. 3 defenders cannot cross the mid field, that's out of 10 players.

Chinese chess has a basis in reality.

In warfare, there are defensive forces and offensive forces.

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It makes the game rather drawish, though. I cooked up a variant that does exactly the opposit: have pieces that must cross into the opponent half in order to be useful. Leapers like the Knight would not be allowed to capture when they start their move on their own half, making them pretty useless as defenders. OTOH, when on their own half they can make multiple non-capturing leaps in the same direction, to make them appear very quickly on the nemy half. (I called this 'flash pieces'.)

This makes attack much easier than defense, so that the game becomes a 'race to checkmate'. It solves the problem that variants on a large board with many pieces often become boring. I used this rule for a variant on a 12x12 board with 2x30 pieces, which I called Onslaught.

In a sense Xiangqi does a bit of the same: Pawns are pretty useless as defenders, and this ballances the purely defensive pieces.

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HGMuller wrote:

We might think the proper name for Xiangqi is "Chinese Chess", but to the Chinese it is just "Chess", and when they are talking about our game they call it "western Xiangqi".

Yes and no.

They call their chess

象棋 Elephant Game (literal)

They call our chess

國際象棋 International Elephant Game.

But they call it incorrectly.

They call their chess correctly incorrectly.

象棋 Elephant Game. They call It correctly etymologically, that is a game from India, hence Elephant.

The "king", the General in the game is

將. That is Sho in Japanese. The Japanese call their chess correctly incorrectly. Shogi 將棋, The Game of the Shogun 將軍, The Game of the General.

We Vietnamese call Chinese Chess incorrectly. Basically 將棋 Shogi, the game of the General.

But we call Western Chess correctly. 王棋 The Game of the King.

But

國際象棋 International Elephant Game.

is correctly incorrect. It is more correct to call it 王棋 The Game of the King.

But International Elephant Game is correct, etymologically because all chess came from India.

Chess = Shah = King. The Shah of Iran.

But Elephant Game is more correct to show its Indian origin.

If you follow my drift.

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long_quach wrote:

Chess = Shah = King. The Shah of Iran.

"Chess" - Shah = King

is not a correct name. That is of Iranian origin.

Not Indian origin.

Elephant Game would be a more correct name for "Chess".

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HGMuller wrote:

The correct name of what we play on this side is "Mad Queen variant of Chess", to distinguish it from its predecessor, where the Queen only moved like a modern King.

That's not a bad idea.

But it would be "Mad Queen variant of Chaturanga (the original original chess).

Chaturanga > Shatranj > Chess

Chess = Shah = King

Why don't we call it Queen Chess? for our modern version of chess?

It would be more correct.