Class A player, how many hours to become one?

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THE SECOND ONE!Karjakin had a 2200 elo when he was 10-11!

clunney
Mika_Rao wrote:

Yeah, if you play when you're a kid, you don't need to know much.  It's just a little sickening to see analysis of, say, 2300 teens who dismiss good moves or glaze over bad moves because they (apparently) only got there by good calculation / tactics / endurance.

Unfortunately, if you're an improving adult, you can't take the path of "just don't blunder."

I was 18 when I started playing (and 19 when I played in my first tournament).  I disagree.  Not hanging stuff (well, by which I mean to obvious tactics.  Deep/tricky ones sometimes can't be avoided) and knowing the openings that you play decently will get you to to at least 1700. 

Mika_Rao

I suppose 18 is an adult.  I don't think it's practical for the OP to go about it this way though i.e. "just don't blunder."  I certainly don't think he'll be 1800 in "an year" or by his "third tournament."

It would be interesting though if he did intensive tactics training a la De La Mesa and reported back to us.

rtr1129

How do they know the brain becoming more rigid with age is due to age and not environment? I imagine it's difficult to find a large sample of healthy adults who have zero responsibility in life.

GreenCastleBlock

2 hours, 15 minutes.

learning2mate
clunney wrote:
Mika_Rao wrote:

Yeah, if you play when you're a kid, you don't need to know much.  It's just a little sickening to see analysis of, say, 2300 teens who dismiss good moves or glaze over bad moves because they (apparently) only got there by good calculation / tactics / endurance.

Unfortunately, if you're an improving adult, you can't take the path of "just don't blunder."

I was 18 when I started playing (and 19 when I played in my first tournament).  I disagree.  Not hanging stuff (well, by which I mean to obvious tactics.  Deep/tricky ones sometimes can't be avoided) and knowing the openings that you play decently will get you to to at least 1700. 

I think this is largely true. My studying has been limited to tactics, endgames, and reviewing master games. My games have been decided by tactics so far.

Stormstout

+10 years for me.

Mika_Rao
rtr1129 wrote:

How do they know the brain becoming more rigid with age is due to age and not environment? I imagine it's difficult to find a large sample of healthy adults who have zero responsibility in life.

For example after growing up, feral kids can't learn language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_of_Aveyron

Till_98

JohnCh1234 hat geschrieben

THE SECOND ONE!Karjakin had a 2200 elo when he was 10-11!

What I am saying now is no joke, I know somebody who can really beat Carlsen one day. He is 9 (!) years old and has a Fide rating over 2100. He could be the youngest grandmaster of all times. I know him because he lives near by my city and we have lots of IM and GM training together.

Ambassador_Spock
GreenCastleBlock wrote:

2 hours, 15 minutes.

That's if you're rated 1784, playing against someone close to your rating, and the time control is G/70.

Conflagration_Planet

They say now, that the old brain is more elastic than they used to think.

Jimmykay
Conflagration_Planet wrote:

They say now, that the old brain is more elastic than they used to think.

Good to hear!

DrSpudnik

Does "elastic" mean you're more likely to snap?

nobodyreally

Just want to mention something about "hanging stuff".

A long time ago I was having dinner with John Nunn at some tournament. He just made an over 125 rating points jump to the world top 10. I asked him how he managed that in less than 1 year.

He answered that a year ago he started writing down his moves before playing them. Put his pen on top of what he wrote down and then started checking the position for simple stuff before playing his move.

Is anything hanging, are there any checks, do I by playing my move create a threat for the opponent that wasn't there before. Knight forks. Simple stuff like that.

It took care of all the silly mistakes. I believe he kept doing that for the rest of his impressive career.

Jimmykay
nobodyreally wrote:

Just want to mention something about "hanging stuff".

A long time ago I was having dinner with John Nunn at some tournament. He just made an over 125 rating points jump to the world top 10. I asked him how he managed that in less than 1 year.

He answered that a year ago he started writing down his moves before playing them. Put his pen on top of what he wrote down and then started checking the position for simple stuff before playing his move.

Is anything hanging, are there any checks, do I by playing my move create a threat for the opponent that wasn't there before. Knight forks. Simple stuff like that.

It took care of all the silly mistakes. I believe he kept doing that for the rest of his impressive career.

Interesting idea! Ironically, the USCF made it illegal (I think from 2013) to write down your move before playing it!

AKAL1

Really? I believe that was only for electronic score sheets, to dissuade players from playing out variations on their devices.

Ziryab

Does FIDE allow recording of moves before making them?

Ambassador_Spock
DrSpudnik wrote:

Does "elastic" mean you're more likely to snap?

Laughing

Jimmykay
AKAL1 wrote:

Really? I believe that was only for electronic score sheets, to dissuade players from playing out variations on their devices.

See 15a, and this was made to be in line with FIDE, so this should answer Ziryab's question as well.

http://www.uschess.org/docs/gov/reports/RulebookChanges.pdf

Ziryab
Jimmykay wrote:
AKAL1 wrote:

Really? I believe that was only for electronic score sheets, to dissuade players from playing out variations on their devices.

See 15a, and this was made to be in line with FIDE, so this should answer Ziryab's question as well.

http://www.uschess.org/docs/gov/reports/RulebookChanges.pdf

Right. Also FIDE 8.1 It is forbidden to write the moves in advance, unless the player is claiming a draw according to Article 9.2, or 9.3 or adjourning a game according to the Guidelines of Adjourned Games point 1.a.

I do not believe the story about John Nunn.