Clock-suckers!!

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slimcheffy пишет:

I play alot of Live 5 minute Blitz games. Recently have noticed there are too many clock-sucking losers here. You know the ones, as soon as they start to lose they don't resign, they don't make a move, they just let the clock run down and waste my freakin time!! I call these players clock-suckers. I think this is a very fitting term and am officially laying claim to coining this Chess phrase. Please feel free to use it when you encounter a classic Clock-sucking low life. I don't have time, and I'm sure none of you do either, to sit there and watch someone suck your clock while playing chess!! Has anyone else had this happen to them?

slimcheffy пишет: I play alot of Live 5 minute Blitz games. Recently have noticed there are too many clock-sucking losers here. You know the ones, as soon as they start to lose they don't resign, they don't make a move, they just let the clock run down and waste my freakin time!! I call these players clock-suckers. I think this is a very fitting term and am officially laying claim to coining this Chess phrase. Please feel free to use it when you encounter a classic Clock-sucking low life. I don't have time, and I'm sure none of you do either, to sit there and watch someone suck your clock while playing chess!! Has anyone else had this happen to them?

Rational_Optimist

sure we can not change people's behavior that much in this website but we can keep up this topic. no need to be angry about it but we can post these games when these losers run away. good thing is that now we have a name for these guys. so we spread it around to discourage this behavior.

slimcheffy
Rational_Optimist wrote:

sure we can not change people's behavior that much in this website but we can keep up this topic. no need to be angry about it but we can post these games when these losers run away. good thing is that now we have a name for these guys. so we spread it around to discourage this behavior.

Or we could go back to basics, gather the townspeople together and stone the clocksuckers to death. Just a thought.

thegreat_patzer
Rational_Optimist wrote:

sure we can not change people's behavior that much in this website but we can keep up this topic. no need to be angry about it but we can post these games when these losers run away. good thing is that now we have a name for these guys. so we spread it around to discourage this behavior.

Too bad.

but chess.com mods will remove names if you try to "shame them" on the forum.

do it often enough and YOU will be banned.

this is sadly,unavoidable. 

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SC, if we are going to kill them= I suggest cruel and horrific testing to prove they are "clocksuckers".  it could be a thing and their misdeeds will be remembered for All of history!

Rational_Optimist
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slimcheffy
mackytom wrote:

Maybe the fatcook secretly likes to suck clocks!

good one Princess!! how very clever indeed, wow that one really stung! 

I would be inclined to engage in a battle of wits with you but I won't fight an unarmed opponent.

slimcheffy
mackytom wrote:

Any time sweetheart. But come up with originals not age old girly quips. 

Wake up & smell the coffee Princess!

You're just a three dressed up as a nine, always blowing your own horn.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Maybe it's time to bury the hatchet rather than run around like a chicken with it's head cut off.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, so instead of shooting for the moon, why don't you just go with the flow seeing as you completely missed the boat here. 

You definitely have a bee in your bonnet,a chip on your shoulder, better to let sleeping dogs lie.

I will fight fire with fire when you fan the flames.

Debating you is like taking candy from a baby, so.....smoke em if you got em and remember, it's always darkest before the dawn.

enotSgnilloR

Why anyone should care about this, please.

slimcheffy
enotSgnilloR wrote:

Why anyone should care about this, please.

Some people care about integrity, others don't. It's your choice really.

KholmovDM

I admit, I almost posted something here... and then no. 

enotSgnilloR

How in the world is integrity at stake?  If you play a slugfest of a game and finally realize you will lose, stopping to catch your breath while the last 8.9 ticks off is irrelevant.  If you are on the winning side, be glad you've won and stop whining.

slimcheffy
enotSgnilloR wrote:

How in the world is integrity at stake?  If you play a slugfest of a game and finally realize you will lose, stopping to catch your breath while the last 8.9 ticks off is irrelevant.  If you are on the winning side, be glad you've won and stop whining.

It's not about 8.9 seconds Dumbldore!! LOL! Thou dost protest too much me thinks......it seems the clock suckers of the world take offense to being called out.

X_PLAYER_J_X
slimcheffy wrote:

Ok - lets say you phone me, and we both agree to a conversation.

Then at some point you put me on hold without telling me the conversation is over, and you walk away leaving me hanging. 

By your logic you have not wasted my time because I agreed to the original conversation.

What you don't seem to grasp is that in Blitz chess, much like a phone conversation, the time spent is only valid when both parties are still engaged.

The minute one party is no longer participating it is over. It is customary also to let the other party know that the conversation, or the game, is over by either saying goodbye or resigning.

If this is not done, the person on the other end of the phone (or game) is left hanging, thus wasting time, doing nothing, thinking the activity is still active. 

This type of behaviour considered rude, bad manners, poor sportsmanship, and shows a lack of ethics or integrity.

Is that clear enough for you X_BoX_Head? 

I hope so because I don't think I can dumb it down any more for you.

The problem you have is you are not factoring in time!

Your metaphor is an incorrect comparision because you are leaving out important parts!

When you play a 5 min game you agree upon a game + you agree upon a set time limit.

In your metaphor if I was to do the same comparision.

You would agree to have a conversation + tell them up front they have 5 min to state there case.

In 5 mins you are going to hang up the phone weather they talk to you or not.

Telling a person up front that they have 5 mins to say something is not rude.

It is how things are done in the business world.

Some people do not have all day to talk to 1 person.

They have a time frame. If you do not fit in what you have to do in the allowed time frame.

Than it is your own fault.

They have every right to hung up on you.

Especially if you agreed to the time frame!

 

 


If I tell a friend of mine I only have 5 mins to talk.

Than 2 mins in the conversation they put me on hold.

I wait 3 more mins on hold.

Than I hang up the phone.

I gave them 5 total mins.

They used up 5 mins.

Now if they didn't get a chance to tell me what they had to say who fault is it?

I waited my 5 mins which I said I would do.

They put me on hold?

It is there fault that they didn't tell me what they had to say in the time I gave them.

I am not rude.

I am not impolite.

I told them from the very begin I only had a certain amount of time.

Than I was going to have to go.

Do I have to agree with the way they used up there 5 mins?

Certainly not! I do not have to agree with what they did.

However, Am I upset?

No, I am not upset because they have the right to use there time as they wish.

If I was in there shoes I would of used my time in a more productive way.

However, they chose to squander there time by having me on hold.

Was my time wasted being on hold?

No, it was not why?

because I promised them 5 mins and I followed through with my promise!

I kept my word and waited the full 5 mins.

Than I hung up the phone.


 

In conclusion this metaphor is an accurate example which proves I am right.

While you may not agree with the way your "opponent uses his time".

You do have to keep your promise and honor your end of the bargin.

Otherwise you are no different than your opponent.

The only way for your opponent to waste your time is if you choice to allow him to exceed the allowed time.

slimcheffy
Wrong. A live blitz game can end very quickly. No need to abandon the game when suddenly down in position or material. At least have sportsmanship and resign, rather than abandon. It's just that simple.
thegreat_patzer

Once again we are at the opposite end of a match of wits and ettiquette  Xplayer- But this time we have the power of the witty knickname behind us....

regarding your analogy.  if you and a friend had 5 minutes ONLY to talk- and he put your on hold for 3 minutes.

What the Heck Kind of Friend is That!  - its perfectly rude  and unfriendly- please Don't put me hold!!!! you gosh darned dude.

anyways, perhaps it didn't change how much time it took, but it was a "waste of time" and not a nice thing to do.

its the Perfect Analogy - ty!- if you want to be 'NICE' Don't be a clock-sucker and don't be a Jellyfish....

Mrmath
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
Mrmath wrote:

Actually, you need to rethink.

Not every blitz game ends with one player running out of time.

It is possible to both save time and lose time.

I repeat: having an opponent "suck your clock" may save time OR waste time.

It all matters with how quickly the game would end after the losing player stops moving.

Say the doomed player has 2 minutes left on his clock. If the game was going to end more than two minutes after the player stopped moving, time was saved.

But do not forget the inverse: If the game was going to end less than two minutes after the player stopped moving, time was wasted.

However, keep in mind that in most cases, the losing player will be checkmated before his time runs out. If there is inevitable mate and the about-to-lose player makes a move and allows the checkmate, the time spent will be less than his remaining time on the clock.

So, to wrap it up, these "clock suckers" may save time but THEY DO WASTE YOUR TIME THE MAJORITY OF SITUATIONS.

So, in conclusion, X_PLAYER_J_X, you have been proven wrong. Understand that slimcheffy is correct, get rekt and have a nice day. 

You and Slimcheffy are both wrong.

I have already explained why wasting time is not possible.

You will only "save time" in chess.

In all chess situation's.

Why don't you read?

glamdring27

chess.com are perfectly well aware of the problem, they don't need to be "made aware" of it.  People who just let their clock tick to the end of the game usually get a "may have violated our fair play policy" warning and, as far as I am aware, the server tends to pair people like this against each other more often so those who do it regularly will get a black mark against their name and play others who do the same.

I rarely meet anyone who disconnects and lets their clock tick because I don't do it myself so I'm not paired with those who do it regularly.

enotSgnilloR

the less you say the more we remember

slimcheffy
glamdring27 wrote:

chess.com are perfectly well aware of the problem, they don't need to be "made aware" of it.  People who just let their clock tick to the end of the game usually get a "may have violated our fair play policy" warning and, as far as I am aware, the server tends to pair people like this against each other more often so those who do it regularly will get a black mark against their name and play others who do the same.

I rarely meet anyone who disconnects and lets their clock tick because I don't do it myself so I'm not paired with those who do it regularly.

This is probably the most ridiculous notion I have heard yet, the server pairs clocksuckers with other clocksuckers so they will get a black mark against their name??? bahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!! Welcome to Fantasy Island!! The plane!! the plane!!!

GerryMo

I love it when my opponents do this. It means I have beaten them and they are really upset. 

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