I've stopped posting stats on TT (Formerly Complaint about my comments on TT)

I don't think there is an answer to this because, as you know, everyone's preference, tolerance level, and expectations are different.

And no I wasn't trying to annoy anybody.  I was trying to help myself when I posted the comments (the stats) because I find the stats interesting, and they are markers for me to tell me if I have passed the puzzles, and inform me when I passed the puzzles so that I can gauge my progress as well as the progression of the puzzle.

I agree with you, elubas that the freedom and wills of other people should be respected :) 

Of course I can't stop you. I just find the comments selfish. You don't care if it impacts on the learning of others and ruins the comments section.

Seems a pointless thread. You seem to ask if the guy had a genuine complaint, but don't care anyway.

Balletshzoes? (sorry about that! )

It can detract from the comments page by making it more difficult to find the interesting comments.

No it doesn't.

I only quickly skim through the comments and sometimes not at all because all I see is people reporting on how well they done and people saying they found it easy. Hence, I find it can be too much effort to find anything interesting. Incidentally, the last puzzle i done had been completed by 14000 people. Thankfully, all 14000 people did not feel the need to comment on how well they had done.

98% of the tactics that I have come across so far I saw from the comment section that you have been there and done that. But so far I havent seen a single comment of yours about losing points by fail. Seems you only mark successfully completed ones. Your comments are not at all annoying but in fact motivating when I fail and see that you succeded in it. 

yeah I wanna put my two bobs worth in to as well but cant think of anything to say so em I agree with him!

When I initially received the complaining message, I wondered why this guy was singling me out of all those people who do exactly the same (I cannot imagine he private messaged everyone who left stats or left even more dismal stuff).  My quick conclusion was that the reason why this guy was messaging me had nothing to do with what I wrote in TT ( because as I said, there are so many others who do the same or worse)  I concluded that this guy was trying to get some kind of a reaction from me by saying something negative toward me and perhaps thought that I would private massage back to him  -- which I, of course, would never do.   

I started this thread for that off chance that I might be wrong in thinking that my stat comments were not out of line.  I wanted to get the general consensus.  I also wanted the complainer to read the responses, in case his complaint was genuine.  

As I expected, overall, the responses have been positive (thank you, all! :)) and the negative ones were not too many. 

Scottrf and repac3161 (both English.  How very interesting :)) I got that you find my comments annoying.  I apologize for that.  I do care about the responses to my TT comments.  I do not wish to do this community any ill and want to be positive and supportive of other members, and after reading the responses and looking at the state of TT comments, most of which are akin to "too easy" or "me, 100%," I conclude that what I am doing in the TT comments section is harmless. 

If chess.com came down and said that I am not to put in those stats, I will stop immediately because I don't like to break rules. 

Thank you, winerkleiner and sidve for your support :) 

Sidve, I also feel very motivated when I see the familiar names repeatedly.  I imagine them hard at work trying to solve the puzzles.  It's like in Cheers.  You see the same faces and you are happy, because you feel like you're in a community,

I am not sure whom you are agreeing with, laurie.  If you are agreeing with the majority of people here, then I thank you for your support :) if you agree with the original complaint, OK I appreciate that, too :) 

'There are other people doing it so it's harmless' I'm not sure is a motto which extrapolates well.

http://www.richmond-philosophy.net/rjp/back_issues/rjp1_hooker.pdf

The fact is on sites where commenters have some respect for other users, the comments are good and helpful. You don't, OK, but why make a thread asking for input?

To be fair, the majority opinion isn't always the right one. And also, you don't have to agree with someone to support them.

I'm not necessarily trying to do much with those statements (I have already posted my opinion earlier), but they are good things to always keep in mind so I posted them anyway.

One of the other reasons I enjoy seeing other members' results is because it makes the stats more "real". 

For example, I see TonightAtSix earned 10 points on a 1700 rated problem and it's only got a 10% pass rate. I click on that player's profile and see they have a 1700 tactics rating and have done 200 hours of the hard work.

Then I don't feel so bad if I miss that one. 

Then, the next time I see that problem during training and get it right, I look at the comments and notice it was that one that I missed before.

Without the player's progress posted in the comment, I'd have no point of reference for it in that context, or at least not as easily.

So, I think it does provide some perks to the members of the community who like to be involved and share their own experiences on the journey to progress.

Don't get me wrong.

I used to be in the other camp a long time ago.

I remember seeing a member named Cannonball who would always post his 100%.

I admit, I began to grow a resentment toward that player on one hand, but in another way, I admired his success.

And it's in that other way that the motivation keeps me going, as I've read many others here feel the same way.

So, it's not like I can't see the other position, I do. It's one I held at one time too.

But, I think if those who don't appreciate it now, could simply look at it in the light of how it helps to motivate and reward members who are trying to improve, maybe if you can just give it a chance, it will grow on you like it did on me. And before you know it, we'll see your 100% on that particulary tricky problem. 

Well learningthemoves, you may not be surprised since I don't find your "no mistakes" games "motivating" as much as, well... other things, but I will say I don't like pure "look at my 100%," or "easy!" We get that you solved it, but like scott (or Kant ) said, imagine if everyone did that, how much the informative comments would get drowned out just because of people's pride.

As far as I understand, tonightatsix posts her result regardless of what percent she got on it. That seems reasonable to me, as long as it doesn't take up an obnoxious amount of space; at least then she's not posting just because she did well and everyone must know about it.

Right, right. Fair enough. See, it's good we have discussions where we can clear the air about the different things on our minds here. 

Although I do support TonightAtSix and admire the work that member has put in on the tactics trainer here, the stories of you (Elubas) and Scott, have touched my heart.

They say it's true repentance only if there is fruit produced from the change of heart.

So, what I am prepared to do is deny myself the posting of my results in the comment sections for at least one month.

After that time, I will revisit the idea and see how I feel then.

But for now, I want to show I am willing to work for the good of the community in spirit, even if it means sacrificing something that I find personally pleasurable. They say there is no greater love than one who is willing to lay their own life down for their friends. 

Hopefully the death of my posting on tactics trainer will be like a seed planted in the soils of this special community (of members who even actually do the tactics trainer on here and put several hours in,) and will produce results that you, Scott and other more long standing members will find  easier to approve. 

And if not?

Then I've got two words for you:

Bless you.

Hello tonightatsix,

If you don't mind could you tell me why you have kaynight blocked? He's curious about that.

(don't shoot the messenger)

ps. couldn't pm you because of your privacy settings

For the record, I think that it's cool to post those stats,

as it's the only way that I know of for members to track them.

You obviously have no respect for what I find useful or for those who say that they like the stats. 

Why start this thread?  I started the thread to see the opinions out there to the question that I put: "So is this person's complaint legitimate?  The following has been the response; There are a few people like you, Scott, who only want the indepth analysis, and there are a lot of people who like or don't mind the stats, and nobody in this thread seems to like "100%" or "easy" people, but there are a lot of those people, too. 

Learningthemoves, I think yours and my opinion matter just as much Scott's.  IMO all the comments (except for the destructive, psychopathic ones) matter because all of us make up this community. 

Maybe TT should have a page devoted for analysis only for people like Scott.  It would be a holy page where only the most studious can enter.

Hi Elubas :)

I think for anyone to hope that his/her TT results are impressive, they need to have a high OTB rating and be doing a very high level puzzles.  Otherwise, what is there to brag about?  I don't have a high OTB rating and I am doing 1700+ rating puzzles at best both of which can be scoffed at by higher level players so I never thought that my comments would be perceived in that light (just posting to show how well I am doing). I don't include my passing percentage and almost never include what my problem rating is (I have included my problem rating in maybe ten of the problems that I have solved out of over 200 hours of TT I have done.)       

In fact, I never thought that anyone was looking at my comments.  I feel like a person, who have a tendency to mumble to herself and someone has  come upto me and said "Hey I don't like what you're mumbling."  My response to that is "What?  I didn't even know that anyone was listening"  much less that they hated what I was mumbling. 

When I see familiar names like learningthemoves or Guerau in TT, I think "Oh, he is doing TT, too.  Good for him and now let me get on with mine :)" and I do not think "Why do I keep seeing these people's names?  Why are they bragging?"