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Correspondence Chess (high brow) VS Blitz (low class)

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small-titan
immaterialgirls wrote:

Correspondence was an interesting variant when letters were the dominant form of long distance communication since the ample time involved permitted virtually perfect play. Many opening ideas and variants were first explored in this context. However, computers and chess engines have rendered correspondence almost completely obsolete since the risk of engine play is so high. If I want to play stockfish, Ill just boot up my laptop and go to town. Additionally, any very high level correspondence games you see are likely created with engine assistance on both sides.

It's very likely that all future explorations of opening ideas will be done with engine assistance, making correspondence a futile and overall uninteresting game.

For most people it's no fun winning by cheating... what's the point of cheating on an anonymous / no prize fund site? Besides chess.com does cheating detection as well.

play4fun64

For online chess, Rapid is best. Blitz is too fast to create Immortal games.

DejaDeJugarBlitz

Daily chess = people with a totally losing position taking as long as possible to respond to each move. Something very unpleasant.

Regarding the issue of cheaters in daily chess, I believe that cheating in this modality can be made undetectable with statistical analysis. In my experience, it is possible that you will find a cheater in 2 out of every thirty players if you play in tournaments in this modality, much less than that if you don't play tournaments but not impossible.

It is very easy to cheat in daily chess without being detected, cheaters will choose sub-optimal moves that keep them close to equality, until the opponent makes a mistake and is punished with the second or third best move.
Chess dot com can't do magic to detect such well-made cheats. In rapid and blitz it is very complicated to make such elaborate traps, so sooner or later they get caught.

pcalugaru

After listen ling to a pod cast of the current world champion in CC

IMO.. CC Chess is dead

The advent of computers has killed it.

The people at top do nothing but run several computers 24/7 with dialed up versions of Stockfish... essay very conservative openings ... and its all computer who is doing the actual playing .

All the human is doing is weighing the computers evaluation

CC Chess is Dead

tygxc

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"CC Chess is dead" ++ Chess is dead: it is a draw.
'Chess will die at the hands of those who love it most' - Bronstein

"The advent of computers has killed it." ++ Computers only accelerated it.

"The people at top do nothing but run several computers 24/7 with dialed up versions of Stockfish" ++ No

"essay very conservative openings"
++ No, they play Catalan, Najdorf, Nimzovich Indian, Queen's Gambit Accepted...

"its all computer who is doing the actual playing"
++ No, the players play, the computers compute.

"All the human is doing is weighing the computers evaluation"
++ No, the human jockeys the computer.

"Chess is Dead" ++ Chess is a draw.
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=100104

Smile
small-titan wrote:

Correspondence chess is for the chess aristocracy. Blitz is for the lower classes, unwashed masses.
Correspondence chess is like fine dining at a classy restaurant -- while Blitz is like a greasy burger with plastic cheese.

How do we popularize Correspondence chess and elevate the masses from their plight?

Smile

Oh thank you aristocratic. I will go back to my hamburger with plastic cheese. BTW its called a cheeseburger!

magipi
THEOMNIVERSALBEING wrote:
tygxc wrote:

Chess is a draw.
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=100104

Chess hasn’t been solved yet.

And it won't be solved anytime soon.

The tablebase project is an attempt to solve chess. With hard work and a ton of computation time, they have solved 0.00000000000000000000001 percent of chess. In more than 20 years.

On the other hand, these correspondence games mean very little. Imagine some player from the future (with technology from the year 2100) play games against these guys. Would these guys manage to score even a single draw? No.

TrickyKnight373737
Not correspondence. Daily chess.