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BronsteinPawn

Nice logic right there.

I think you should take 300 mg of Trollifiris every 8 hours so you can learn how to write non-sense correctly and look cool, just like me!

BronsteinPawn

IM NOT ANGRY DUD. 

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CookedQueen
BronsteinPawn wrote:

IM NOT ANGRY DUD. 

 

kind of simpatico

Is this a photograph or a painting of you?

BronsteinPawn

Virtual reality.

Do you want a treat for saying simpatico?

ArgoNavis
BronsteinPawn wrote:

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Amen.

BronsteinPawn

Lol. GOOD LUCK TRYING TO TRADUCE THAT, BATMANHATINGGIRL OR CRYSTALMUN.

BronsteinPawn
pfren escribió:

That last game barely touches the essence of the line. 24.Nd6?! is meek- white has a very dangerous attack.

 

 
If you want to play some chess, then simply do not play exhaustively analysed variations being unprepared, simple as that. You can see I ahve scored an effortless win ( I barely played a single move of my own) against an ICCF Senior Master, who had not done his homework...
 
21.g4!? is also very dangerous, and analysed to incredible depth by Negi in his book. Actually I think Black can play that line more safely: 17.Bg3 Qd5! (luring the pawn to c4) 18.c4 Bxd4 19.Rxd4 Qa5+ 20.Rd2 0-0 21.Bd6 f5!, which I think is quite fine for Black, and not difficult to handle.

That wasnt one of my games lol. I just looked for a short draw in an OTB database.

However

 

1.Thanks for the analysis

2. What you said is very true, I thought I could play 2 tournaments at the Lechenicer Server without a problem but boy is it hard to analyze so many things.

 

mikeyt

At some point, you are on your own. The only difference with correspondence chess is that this moment comes much later in the game than it does with OTB chess. I play both and find a lot of fun and challenge in both. If you play a stronger player, you will lose - database or not. Unless you cheat and use an engine, which is against the rules, but you are not playing chess in that case, anyway.

SonOfThunder2

Bye bye.  

toad

Sure, we've figured a lot of things out about chess and even worked some variations out all the way to the end, but that doesn't make chess bad or detract from its beauty, and as pfren pointed out, there's still much to learn.

 

I agree with physicist Richard Feynman when he said that knowing how things work doesn't take away from the beauty - it adds to it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbFM3rn4ldo

BronsteinPawn

Did you even read the descriptio? Centaur chess, using an engine is not cheating, you can use whatever you want/can.

BronsteinPawn
happytoad escribió:

Sure, we've figured a lot of things out about chess and even worked some variations out all the way to the end, but that doesn't make chess bad or detract from its beauty, and as pfren pointed out, there's still much to learn.

 

I agree with physicist Richard Feynman when he said that knowing how things work doesn't take away from the beauty - it adds to it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbFM3rn4ldo

I did not find anything beatiful in doing some clicks and getting a draw, perhaps once my opponents start to rekt me I will have fun preparing theory.

toad

If you just did some clicks, then it sounds like you didn't take the time to understand why those variations are the ones that work and why the previous lines that we used to think were working don't actually work. The ICCF moves are incredibly strong, and you can just take them at their word if you want, but I think it's a lot of fun trying to understand why those moves are the ones that work.

 

And yes, having a more testing opponent certainly helps, agreed!

BronsteinPawn

I think no one can save you from drawing with a few clicks if your opponent enters a drawn line.

However, what are you talking about when referring to the other lines that actually dont work?
Literally everything played was theory up until the endgame, but it didnt matter, White also got the equal position he wanted with fxe6!

BronsteinPawn

 The story would have been different with 16.Nbd4, after it I think I would have also made a few clicks because it is all forced according to the database until White starts having some alternatives and it is TIME TO ANALYZE FOR 8 HOURS UNTIL YOU FALL ASLEEP ON YOUR DESK! TRUE ANTI MAGNUS STYLE.

toad

Yes, you probably won't get winning chances in correspondence with black if white either wants a draw or just isn't aware of the most testing continuations and inadvertently steers the game towards a draw.

 

I'm not sure how to quickly sum up the "stuff that doesn't work" bit.

 

Let's consider cars. I don't know much about how cars work. I'm not proud of that, but I just am not that interested. I just use my car to get places, and I'm OK with that because I'm not really into cars.

 

Similarly, you can run engines to high depth and do database dumps and get a level of chess that is very difficult to improve upon*  That's like using your car to get places without understanding how it works. It solves the practical goal of getting a result in a chess game.  But I think most people play chess because they want find it interesting and enjoy learning about how it works. So instead of just insta-playing the drawing move, I will deeply investigate the drawing move and figure out why it's a draw. Why do white's promising ideas not lead to an advantage? Why can white exploit other moves besides the drawing move? It's all fascinating to me. I don't know why someone would play chess if they didn't feel the same way. After doing all of that exploration, then I'll finally click on the drawing move and get my result.

 

 

*Yes, I am aware of the tricks strong corr players can use to sometimes improve upon pure database/engine play, it's just not the point of this post happy.png

 

BronsteinPawn

fxe6 doesnt look promising for White tho, and Im not sure what is White's plan after Nc7, I was lazy and kind of bussy tho, so I just went with the flow without trying to test the opening.

BronsteinPawn

And yes I agree with you, I probably should have still analyzed the opening deeply, but I had 8 ICCF games which I thought was a good idea lol, so any time I could get for the other ones was well recieved.