Could old players beat today’s modern players if they had access to computers?

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I believe Fischer would stomp, if he somehow managed to avoid all his mental issues.

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Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:

If they would have put time in it,then definitely.But not all great players will be able to become 2700+ but Morphy would be a 2700+ for sure

Yeah I think morphy or Capablanca would have a fair shot of being able to compete by today’s standards

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If they knew how to work computers, then maybe.

But which time period are we talking? Is this before pawns were allowed to advance twice? Before castling? Before en passant?

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What the hell, the old timers were not even 2100 by modern standards, true world champions like nakamura would thrash Morphy or capablanca by 100 to 0 score, I think Morphy won't even last 10 moves against nakamura and capablanca may play 12 or 14 moves before being checkmated by the true legend nakamura

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gandwaa wrote:

true world champions like nakamura

Lol

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Clearing throat....... Naka has never been world champion.

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There's a player that used chess engines to see the average centipawn difference between various ratings. I saw his video during the period when Hans Niemann was being accused of that word that's supposed to go unsaid. Hahahaha.... He analyzed Hans moves and compared the scores, the centipawn differences with others.

Anyway, I'm sure somebody has done that with players of the past to determine what a computer thinks their playing strength would be.

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If they were magically transported to 2018, taught how to use computers, and had a couple years to study modern theory, there are some players from the past that would likely be highly competitive at the top level. In no particular order: Morphy, Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine, Botvinnik, Keres, Bronstein, Tal, and Fischer all would likely be in the top 100, if not the top 20. A couple fun matches to see would be Magnus and Alekhine, and Capablanca and Kasparov.

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gandwaa wrote:

What the hell, the old timers were not even 2100 by modern standards, true world champions like nakamura would thrash Morphy or capablanca by 100 to 0 score, I think Morphy won't even last 10 moves against nakamura and capablanca may play 12 or 14 moves before being checkmated by the true legend nakamura

If I play 10 games against there are some games that I will last more than 14moves before checkmate.

I guess you are exaggerating. 😁

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hmm

there are two ways to take this

teleport the players to 2023 and then make them, bam, no access to modern stuff, play; then they could possibly have noone in the top 100

but if you give them some time to prep (but they still have to play in their style) and learn modern theories... capa top 10 easily, kasparov at his prime could challenge the throne, morphy would be an overly aggressive 26-2700

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There are a number of factors that go into making a top-ranking chess player.

They include natural aptitude, willingness to work hard, access to accumulated chess knowledge, and experience playing against top-rank opponents.

The Old Masters might be equal in the first two (natural aptitude, willingness to work hard) and given access to computers might meet the third criteria (access to accumulated chess knowledge) but I don't see how they can overcome the last point (experience playing against top-rank opponents).

The Old Masters never faced an opponent stronger than each other (ie: weak IM standard).

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