Developing Intuition

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SniperClown

Blink! I refer to Malcolm Gladwell's book. Does the very first few milliseconds actually "give you the right answer"? Can one develop intuition by playing from a sub-conscious level? (Of course Gladwell also mentions 10,000 hour rule; and, perhaps, one can hone their skill of playing from gut, then? After all if there are millions and millions of random moves, logical brain may not see the optimal move but the subconscious may?

And finally any famous Intuitive player (I heard of Paol Morphy) in chess arena? Any thoughts on it?

clarkcassie
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RomyGer

Zeeshan : you call yourself a sage, but first I had to transform your text to plain English questions : 1) do the first seconds of observation give you the right ideas ? ; 2) can one develop intuition ? and 3) can one develop intuition by playing subconsciously ?

And keep in mind my mother language is not English, so using wrong words can happen !

First : Gladwell's book says that the human subconscious interprets events or cues ( and in this context chess situation ).

And : Past experiences can lead people to make expert decisions rapidly ; in that case the mental process works fast  --  from relatively little information.

You started this forum about " intuition ".  Intuition is  : without having learned how to do something, without experience, without thinking and calculating ; it is a natural ability or tendency to act in a good way, to solve problems,  having good insight and good inspiration, according to your sences.

As my teacher once said : like birds know how to make a nest.

I hope you will react, to continue about playing chess !   Regards, Ger.

Xeelfiar

You develop intuition by playing a lot of games and memoring a lot of patterns

Xilmi

I've read an interesting article about that. Intuition, which comes from practice, immensely helps to cut down the list of candidate-moves.

It even suggested that top-level-players aren't that much faster in their accessment. They simply concentrate on the intuitionally valid moves and thus calculate them deeper, whereas the lower experts calculate more variations with less depht.

RomyGer

One can not "develop" intuition, see lines 9 up to and including 13 of my post number 3 here above and intuition does not come from practice.

Yes : top players can see "intuitionally" the best moves !

Playing a lot of games means memorizing and recognizing a lot of patterns on the chess board.

Gladwell's book is (in this context about chess) not about intuition, but about past experiences.

Another book by Valeri Beim "The Enigma of Chess Intuition" tries to get to the bottom of intuition, when and how, what is the value, does it repeat, is it changing through the years...

According to Van den Herik, Dutch mathematician, intuition, in fact, in effect, does not exist, it is mystified ; and he refers to stored knowledge.



DrCheckevertim
Xeelfiar wrote:

You develop intuition by playing a lot of games and memoring a lot of patterns

Yep. Chess intuition is recall of previous patterns/games.

u412364

To see serveral moves ahead to a favorable outcome say the capture of a piece, or mate is part experience, as well as intuition for an opponent is always unpredictable.

RomyGer

Ha ! Something new "Chess Intuition", please separate these two subjects, as intuition exists in his own, and in a lot of cases, not only chess, remember the bird, making a nest, without previous experience ...

Perhaps you were inspired by the title of Beim's book : The Enigma of Intuition ( yes : at Chess...).

And yes, I do not deny that recall of previous seen patterns does exist, but it is not called intuition.

@ 412364 : you are right, it is both, experience and intuition, but forget about the last six words, "because an opponent is always unpredictable", as that has nothing to do with the selection of moves (  although it is true !!! )

VLaurenT

http://www.chess.com/article/view/the-best-moves-never-played-intuition

RomyGer

Thanks, Laurent (hicetnunc), that article concludes this forum !

There is another forum here on chess.com about the cited remark by Kasparov about Carlsen's moves, alas, I could not find it back...

Ziryab

My impressions of Malcolm Gladwell from reviews and excerpts is that he is a popularizer of academic work, and who exhibits less rigor than another popularizer who writes more about chess, David Shenk. Nonetheless, after reading the OP's synopsis and questions, I'll short list Blink. I've downloaded the Kindle sample as a first step. It's only $3.99. Not much commitment needed for the whole.

nexovec
Uživatel Xeelfiar napsal:

You develop intuition by playing a lot of games and memoring a lot of patterns

I would like to explain to you, why intuition in chess has little to do with memory. In a real game you face a decision, which you usually wont just recall (just an example) from a game that was played between Kasparov and Karpov in 1985(sounds as ridiculous as it is), and because you´re working out logical consequences and calculating variations, you just wont remember, nobody is going to tell you that you should search for a tactic, you have to get a feeling for it, of course its highly beneficial and recommended to go through different motifs so that you´re not clearly surprised, I would say that this "Intuition" thing is the biggest mystery of chess

MalGladFan
SniperClown wrote:

Blink! I refer to Malcolm Gladwell's book. Does the very first few milliseconds actually "give you the right answer"? Can one develop intuition by playing from a sub-conscious level? (Of course Gladwell also mentions 10,000 hour rule; and, perhaps, one can hone their skill of playing from gut, then? After all if there are millions and millions of random moves, logical brain may not see the optimal move but the subconscious may?

And finally any famous Intuitive player (I heard of Paol Morphy) in chess arena? Any thoughts on it?

 

Hey, I am a fan of Malcolm as well and I am pretty much interested in Intuition Development. 
Obviously, Intuition has become widely discussed over the past several years. 

I have read quite some articles on this topic and find it fascinating, like:

https://smith.queensu.ca/insight/webinars/intuition_based_decision_making

http://the-happy-manager.com/articles/intuition-and-decision-making/

 

I think you might come across those articles while searching ways to improve your Intuition too. But I would love to share with you some other completely cool things I just discovered several days before. That is an innovative device that is scientifically-proven to be able to train and improve our Intuition.

http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/Introducing-Intuition-Pro-The-World-s-First-Intuition-Enhancing-Device-1009374921

 

I really want you guys come and check it out and give some opinions too. 

I mean I will definitely buy it because I was like "OMG, all these steps to improve my Intuition sound a bit complicated. I wish there were some gadget to assist me with this" while I was reading those articles long ago. And now BUM! it appears like magic.

 

OK I might sound so excited. Now I wanna hear from you guys.

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Johnkagey

SniperClown wrote:

Blink! I refer to Malcolm Gladwell's book. Does the very first few milliseconds actually "give you the right answer"? Can one develop intuition by playing from a sub-conscious level? (Of course Gladwell also mentions 10,000 hour rule; and, perhaps, one can hone their skill of playing from gut, then? After all if there are millions and millions of random moves, logical brain may not see the optimal move but the subconscious may?

And finally any famous Intuitive player (I heard of Paol Morphy) in chess arena? Any thoughts on it?

to find out if this is true play speed chess.you will have your answer quickly