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Difference between puzzle rating and live chess
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Mar 29, 2022
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#263
brasileirosim wrote:
noob931408 wrote:
1600 puzzle and 590 Rapid. I guess I should play more? 137 Games Vs 1340 puzzles solved
In a recent thread I proposed an experiment- how long would a 400 or 500-rated player take to reach 1000 in rapid with the help of a better player? Nobody was interested, even after I offered to help for free. I guess players at this level are simple not used to work in a more structured way. I am still offering my help, in the case you are interested. The idea is to get through some games from time to time to see what can be improved. Something like once or twice a week. I can imagine that everybody can gain at least 50 points every week, perhaps more, with proper advice. Or perhaps I am very wrong. Anyway, it would be a cool experiment.
When I started playing on chess.com I was already 800 after watching quite a few videos and within a month got to 1000, before watching the videos I would imagine I was 500. If anyone really picked up the game and got very interested they would reach essentially 500 to 1000 in also a month if that devoted an immense amount of time to the game (thinking about it like 12 hours a day, not necessarily studying, but thinking about it like watching videos). Really all depends on how much time you put into the game and how critical you think. I have never been coached to this day, at the time all I simply did was watch youtube videos that were also instructive. I can even remember when I used to look up "every chess tactic that exists" thinking it would take forever to learn them all. I suppose it could also depend on how open-minded your brain is to learning new ways to think, because like learning a new language, it would be a bit more difficult for an adult to go from 500 to 1000, possibly quite a few months if they tried hard.
x1jacob wrote:
brasileirosim wrote:
noob931408 wrote:
1600 puzzle and 590 Rapid. I guess I should play more? 137 Games Vs 1340 puzzles solved
In a recent thread I proposed an experiment- how long would a 400 or 500-rated player take to reach 1000 in rapid with the help of a better player? Nobody was interested, even after I offered to help for free. I guess players at this level are simple not used to work in a more structured way. I am still offering my help, in the case you are interested. The idea is to get through some games from time to time to see what can be improved. Something like once or twice a week. I can imagine that everybody can gain at least 50 points every week, perhaps more, with proper advice. Or perhaps I am very wrong. Anyway, it would be a cool experiment.
When I started playing on chess.com I was already 800 after watching quite a few videos and within a month got to 1000, before watching the videos I would imagine I was 500. If anyone really picked up the game and got very interested they would reach essentially 500 to 1000 in also a month if that devoted an immense amount of time to the game (thinking about it like 12 hours a day, not necessarily studying, but thinking about it like watching videos). Really all depends on how much time you put into the game and how critical you think. I have never been coached to this day, at the time all I simply did was watch youtube videos that were also instructive. I can even remember when I used to look up "every chess tactic that exists" thinking it would take forever to learn them all. I suppose it could also depend on how open-minded your brain is to learning new ways to think, because like learning a new language, it would be a bit more difficult for an adult to go from 500 to 1000, possibly quite a few months if they tried hard.
I am sure wait for someone interested in participating in this experiment. I guess that people who are somehow interested in improving will find easily material every everywhere.
Mar 31, 2022
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#265
brasileirosim wrote:
Puzzle rating is certainly higher than blitz or rapid rating in chess.com. Do you know how much point higher? Something like 300 points or more?
Solving puzzles and playing actual games involves different skills.
It's like comparing archery to sword-fighting.
In puzzles, you're given positions that are usually winning, or outright won. All you have to do is find the most accurate continuation to win material, or the game.
This isn't how chess is actually played. You aren't given winning positions by default - you have to create them and earn them, against an uncooperative opponent.
And most positions have various approaches a player can try - there isn't just a single "correct" sequence at every move.
If you want to get good at chess, work on chess. If you want to get good at puzzles, work on puzzles. But don't conflate the two. One does not equal the other.
brasileirosim wrote:
Puzzle rating is certainly higher than blitz or rapid rating in chess.com. Do you know how much point higher? Something like 300 points or more?
my rapid is 800 but puzzle is 1600
Apr 9, 2022
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#267
When I was 1200 rapid, I was 2000 puzzles. Now 1400 rapid and actively 2600 at puzzles.
I think everybody should shoot for at least 3000 puzzles rating. It does increase your knowledge and experience on tactics where eventually it does flow into your games.
Optimissed wrote:
Doing Daily, where you have to analyse and then comparing the result with engine moves is far, far better for your chess.
Not mutually exclusive, I guess. With the analysis however you have everything what you need, the whole game.
Apr 14, 2022
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#269
Graphixbyte wrote:
I can barely go above 150, but my puzzle chess rating is 900
I thought no-one is below 400 if they take any part in discussion about chess, but it seems that you really are 200 in rapid. Have you ever taken time to learn any opening if you use time to solve puzzles? There are so many videos that teach the basic theory in 1 hour for black and 1 hour for white, and then you are 600 in no time, if you know the back rank mate.
Yea i have got 700 rapid and 2000 puzzles
GamerBoy6363 wrote:
Yea i have got 700 rapid and 2000 puzzles
Perhaps you should work with your opening to get better positions where you can use your tactics.
michaeltakhell wrote:
1800 blitz 2300 puzzle rating
1100 blitz 2300 puzzle rating
Similar to my rating, 1221 in blitz and 2032 in puzzles. I am not playing blitz anymore. My 10 minutes rapid is now 1618.
Jun 29, 2022
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#276
Mr_Trouble wrote:
2034 puzzles, 834 blitz. Reviving a dead thread, just trying to figure out why I suck at playing games. Might stick to the puzzles.
How to get better? Look at your last games
your accuracies are 97% repeatedly
max21214 wrote:
Tactics are funnier because we can't really lose... But according to your puzzle rating you should be stronger in blitz, at least 1300. Are you making a lot of mistakes in the opening phase?
After analyzing my games, it is very often just 1(or more...) blunder(s) that kills the game. I just get careless in blitz I guess? But maybe it is because I have no rapid experience. I assume I need more practice.
here is an interesting example
https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/6328295044?tab=report
You can lose... if you get the puzzle wrong you lose rating.
It feels like you are competing with yourself in puzzles, with no pressure, while in a game you can lose TO SOMEONE, which adds pressure.
You first blundered the c pawn but your opponent didn't see it, then your opponent blundered the h pawn but you didn't see it, then your opponent blundered a knight, then you blundered both bishops in 1 move (only one could have been taken though), then you were in time trouble so you didn't find Rxg7+ and blundered mate in 1 instead. You played weirdly in the opening, but you are 800-900 rated player so it doesn't matter if you play odd moves, the most important thing is that you don't give away pieces for free in 1 move and notice when your opponent do this mistake. Not playing Rxg7+ and blundering mate in 1 is due to time trouble, so you shouldn't feel bad about that.
Jul 23, 2022
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#280
Hatter_11 skrev:
Im 800 rapid, 400 blitz and my puzzle rating is 2500. honestly starting to think that solving puzzles doesn't even improve my game
*Update*, now about: 1300 rapid, 1000 blitz and about 2900 puzzles, I hit 3000 once but immediately fell back down (I've been trying to climb back up but its tough). I think at this point , what I need to do to improve is to keep playing slower time controls, at least 15+10 rapid online but most importantly also planning on playing more OTB.
rapid 1200 puzzle 1800