"Great"?
A certain amount of talent, yes. Hard work and dedication are more important, but you'll be up against people who have hard work, dedication AND talent.
Do I need to have talent to become a great chess player?
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Mar 31, 2019
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All depends on what you expect to be as a "great" player. If it means being polite and respectable during the match.... then yes.
Mar 31, 2019
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MMTMIT wrote:
How stupid is this. Talent doesn’t exist.
You believe that there is no such thing as talent or aptitude?
This must be some sort of hypertrophied egalitarian philosophy with which I was not acquainted.
Mar 31, 2019
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MMTMIT, don't let people affect you so much I'm sure you're a great person, everyone has rough times just stay strong.. and try not to lash out at other people!
Talent is certainly a thing. And limitations at one point eventually DO matter. I don't care how hard you flap your arms, you will never fly to the Moon without assistance.
BUT, one of the most important aspects of this is simply the willingness to put in the hard work. There is a great deal to know to be an even fairly average player, and you simply have to be willing to put in the study involved.
To become a great chess player you need to play, and lose, and learn from your mistakes, over and over and over again, for many, many years.
I find it funny that you think you can beat Carlsen when you're rating's only about 1100
Mar 31, 2019
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I've already made my own views plain:
1) Talent exists. All human beings have potential, but it is fatuous to maintain that all human beings have exactly the same potential in exactly the same directions.
2) Talent is very important at the lowest levels of a field, but becomes increasingly irrelevant as you get closer to the top of a field. At the very top of a profession, dedication and hard work count for much more than natural ability does.
3) If you want to be the best in the world ("World Chess Champion", for example) then you need all of these assets... dedication, hard work and talent. Because you will be competing with people who have all three.
Mar 31, 2019
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MMTMIT wrote:
Whatever. I'll find out how talented I am.
As I mentioned, at the top skill levels talent is the least important of the three. If you hope to become a Grandmaster, then a more important question is whether you have the determination to stick with it and are willing to put in the hard work required. Talent has its biggest impact at low skill levels, and if you are aiming high then other factors are more crucial.
Mar 31, 2019
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iluvzmebirds wrote:
chess is pure tactics, intuition and calculation of variations and theory man. for noobs it’s mostly stupidity, no talent whatsoever.
By that logic, a noob is doomed to always be a noob, since talent isn't something that can be learned.
Unless you have a really odd definition of the word "talent".
Mar 31, 2019
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iluvzmebirds wrote:
yeah but he or she can hit the tactics like a madman and keep building up the theory and do some exercises to improve memory! then bobs yer teapot.
But that's not talent. It's hard work and dedication. Talent is natural aptitude.
Mar 31, 2019
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iluvzmebirds wrote:
maybe my dictionary is out of date
You might be holding it upside down.
If you really want to know how far you can go with chess, then you gotta work as hard as you can. Top players didn't become strong because they had the talent, they had to train play and learn every day to get better. It's easy to say someone like Magnus was just born with chess genius, as if those years of training and dedication to the game was just a side thing.
in chess, like in all sports, the best players are the ones most talented at doping
Mrmerbs57 wrote:
MMTMIT wrote:
You don't need to have greatness to become a decent chess player say 2000 rating I know someone who is autistic and he is 2120, What he has which is the vital part is dedication, a willingness to sacrifice time and study the game, and I don't mean stuck in front of a pc those things they call books! if you have dedication 2000 -2100 is possible higher than this I think would need a degree of Talent the ability of chess insight, that's remembering set pieces, that's positions or structures in pawns and pieces and implementing them into your games is where that insight and Talent is in chess!
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What has autism got to do with anything? I know someone with two legs and he is 2120.... Your point?
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