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osdeving

For those who play poker too,

Do you see the similarity of poker theory in some respects to the theory of chess?

For example, I play blitz on my level and note that players hardly play 'cute' like GMs or strong players. Against my opponents I have to be prepared to 'go to the fight' with them. It is as if everything we have studied is not very valuable at our level because it is all about tactics. Eventually we are already with material advantage and all that matters from now on is checkmate before your time is up, consider that I am essentially referring to the blitz.

In poker, similarly, it's as if all advice and theory does not work so well against beginners. In poker we call these players 'donkey', they essentially play it wrong, but they do not stop being dangerous because also as a beginner we do not have the cleverness necessary to punish every mistake. Eventually in poker we complain, sometimes in a funny way, saying 'he's not playing right and I'm losing him' (comic, because if you're losing then he's doing something right lol).

Only those who play poker will catch what I'm trying to say! I find this really intriguing in chess. It is not so common to have the opportunity to use what we learn in the theoretical books against the beginners in blitz, the game is too chaotic for that, there it only matters the tactical cleverness, to know to seize the opportunity and all this before its miserable 3min finishes. Everything is very exciting, but also frustrating ...

'those guy is idiot, they play h4-h5, they dont know that opening pawn move is wrong?'
'oh, idiot, play the same piece twice on opening'
'oh, dammit, why that guy are playing WRONG and I'm too lost?'

"In some sense, sometimes, a common player tende to imitate your tormentor" <-- that one is because is more hard improve by playing just against people with our own level?

1c4oc5

Poker and chess are completely different. In poker you lose your money most of the time; in chess you lose your money also if you win. Meditate about that!

osdeving
1c4oc5 escreveu:

Poker and chess are completely different. In poker you lose your money most of the time; in chess you lose your money also if you win. Meditate about that!

I remembered that meme:

The thief says to the man: 'It is an assault, your money or your life'. And he replies: 'You're out of luck, I'm a programmer, I have no money and no life!'

I'm a programmer, I play chess and poker, I think I'm sad now lol

markkoso

I play poker. I have been thinking a while about starting an off topic thread about it. In my opinion the idea that you lost to an opponent because they are too inexperienced to play correctly does not apply at all to chess since in chess there is zero short term luck factor whereas in poker a fish can get lucky a few times before they lose. While I appreciate that if you are going for deep positional analysis you may lose in a blitz game against someone who does not play that way that does not mean you are better. In my opinion if an opponent is beating you at a particular time control they are better at chess at that speed. If they are playing short term tactics and traps in blitz that is a skill compared to blundering against tactics. All in all I find poker a fascinating game with a very different skillset compared to chess.

leonarda6k

Thanks! In poker you lose your money most of the time; in chess you lose your money also if you win.

BoardMonkey

In cards the information is in your hand and players can't see it. In chess the information is shared on the board and players still don't see it. With cards the more you score the more information you disclose but you have to have a good memory and think fast.

orhanicus21
Not the same