Do you think Hans Is cheating?
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Sep 8, 2022
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#102
It’s possible that discussing otb cheating is allowed whereas discussing online cheating is not. I haven’t read the rules.
Well Hans is playing Wesley So at the moment and Wesley was the one accusing Tigran "pipi in ur diapers" Petrosian of online cheating. There never was that Pipi Invitational between those 2.
I can't understand why the sons of dogs admins of this site consider Niemann a cheater, but when I complain about a player with 99% accuracy, they don't ban him)).
I understand that developers are only interested in money and they believe that chess is their invention, but you need to have a conscience. And Niemann is a good player, Magnus does not know how to lose, and like a typical girl, he began to complain
I'm not sure what to tell u Zach except that in the off topic section there's a lot of cool threads that might help.
barvinoq wrote:
I can't understand why the sons of dogs admins of this site consider Niemann a cheater, but when I complain about a player with 99% accuracy, they don't ban him)).
I understand that developers are only interested in money and they believe that chess is their invention, but you need to have a conscience. And Niemann is a good player, Magnus does not know how to lose, and like a typical girl, he began to complain
Like you're complaining now?
On chess24 I typed "come on Hans, make him go pipi in his diaper" and for some reason they deleted it. Haha.
jyske101 hat geschrieben:
Lol so it appears that in addition to being banned twice on chess.com he has also had his account closed at lichess for cheating?
Ah well it can be dismissed as cheating on your homework funny Niemann did not mention the lichess cheating though ……
Ah well it can be dismissed as cheating on your homework funny Niemann did not mention the lichess cheating though ……
I read several times that Niemann was banned once from lichess, however, I am not sure where this comes from. Is there any evidence for this?
Sep 8, 2022
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#111
I would not completely rule it out but, as I hear how Ben Finegold put it: 5% probability. Highly, highly unlikely. Those who make accusations, should also provide extremely compelling proof.
Sep 8, 2022
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#112
barvinoq wrote:
Magnus does not know how to lose, and like a typical girl, he began to complain
Yes, very typical of Magnus... who is a girl...
what?
Sep 8, 2022
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#113
I don't know if this has been said yet, but what if Carlsen is just trying to protect his rating? He has said he wants to get 2900 so maybe the loss to Hans would be too big a rating loss for Carlsen to continue the tourney. I have not investigated the rules for the rating changes but it would explain both his withdrawal and his cryptic tweet.
Sep 8, 2022
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#114
Doomtron wrote:
I don't know if this has been said yet, but what if Carlsen is just trying to protect his rating? He has said he wants to get 2900 so maybe the loss to Hans would be too big a rating loss for Carlsen to continue the tourney. I have not investigated the rules for the rating changes but it would explain both his withdrawal and his cryptic tweet.
FIDE still rates the games, so it wouldn't refund rating points.
It's not like he was 2899 so... ?
But also that's stuff that little kids do on weekend tournaments (withdraw after a loss). That never happens in top tournaments. Notice how he said he likes the Sinquefield Cup and he hopes to play again in the future... IOW "please don't ban me from future events for doing this" heh.
Sep 8, 2022
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#116
Doomtron wrote:
I don't know if this has been said yet, but what if Carlsen is just trying to protect his rating? He has said he wants to get 2900 so maybe the loss to Hans would be too big a rating loss for Carlsen to continue the tourney. I have not investigated the rules for the rating changes but it would explain both his withdrawal and his cryptic tweet.
I know a few people who do this when they lose a game in an event, but the problem is the math does not work out. If he felt he was out of form (which did not seem to be the case in round 1), then it would make sense (as he would simply stop the bleeding). In this kind of round robin, he would maintain his rating with a +1/+2 score and would gain rating with +3 or better.
The players I see doing this usually do it in Swiss events. If they lose, they withdraw. This works to gain rating if they don't lose until round 4 (in a 5-round event) or round 5 (in a 6-7 round event) as they will gain rating from beating up on players are slightly lower ratings in the earlier rounds. However, what use is having a 1900 rating if you struggle to beat 1600s (which is exactly what ends up happening).
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Sep 8, 2022
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#118
PawnTsunami wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
I don't think Hans is cheating. I think Magnus needs to speak up, his tweet trashed Hans' reputation and that is unfair.
Either provide evidence of cheating or say nothing at all. There is no way for Hans to defend himself against Magnus' cryptic tweet.
To be fair, Magnus has said absolutely nothing, so it is impossible for his tweet (which did not say anything other than "I'm withdrawing and I cannot say more") to trash Hans' reputation.
Once the tweet was out there many people started to blame Hans. If the tweet wasn't directed at Hans then Magnus should have cleared that up immediately.
By saying nothing he is allowing Hans' reputation to get trashed.
Sep 8, 2022
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#120
BlueHen86 wrote:
PawnTsunami wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
I don't think Hans is cheating. I think Magnus needs to speak up, his tweet trashed Hans' reputation and that is unfair.
Either provide evidence of cheating or say nothing at all. There is no way for Hans to defend himself against Magnus' cryptic tweet.
To be fair, Magnus has said absolutely nothing, so it is impossible for his tweet (which did not say anything other than "I'm withdrawing and I cannot say more") to trash Hans' reputation.
Once the tweet was out there many people started to blame Hans. If the tweet wasn't directed at Hans then Magnus should have cleared that up immediately.
By saying nothing he is allowing Hans' reputation to get trashed.
Yeah, rumors are swirling so it would be good to say something.
Carlsen will have to address this eventually. Does it really make sense to put off? I guess we'll know once we hear it...
It's very interesting that this site is very strict about having NO discussions about cheating in the public forums but allow ALL THESE discussions about cheating.
It's gettin interestinger and interestinger.
You've always been able to discuss cheating in a general way. It's against the TOS to accuse other chess.com members of cheating or to discuss the details of how people cheat.
There was never any hint of stopping the discussions about Boris Ivanov, for example, and that situation is pretty much the closest comparison with the current situation.