Does Anand even have a "puncher's chance"? Part 2

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Avatar of InfiniteFlash

Now that Vishy has shocked the chess community, can he achieve immortality by seemingly doing the imposible by beating Magnus Titan Carlsen?

 

My answer: NOPE, he's gonna lose by 2 or 3 games again.

That doesn't mean I don't want Vishy to win though...

Avatar of Pre_VizsIa

I predict Carlsen will win, but since Anand is doing so much better, the match should be much more entertaining.

Avatar of MrDamonSmith

I think he will lose by about the same % again.

Avatar of Scottrf

Sure. But it's Mayweather - Maidana. No holes in the defence.

Avatar of TheRocketKing

anand has nothing to lose, he should just go crazy and all-in every game

Avatar of Senator-Blutarsky

Even if the championship match was played in Dodge City, the bullets would just bounce off Carlsen.

Avatar of Senator-Blutarsky

Playing Carlsen at his own game, like Ivanchuk did is worth considering.

Sit back, wait for a blunder, then go all in.

Avatar of Likhit1

I want him to although I know that I'm hoping against hope.

Avatar of David210

he should play 1- d4 to have a better chance most probably.

Avatar of Teeer

Nakamura commented during the last championship match that Anand was playing to Carlsen's strengths and not his owns. To a large extent I agree with him. This year, I hope we will be seeing more spectacles similar to game 9 of 2013 where Anand gets to show his strengths.

Avatar of zborg

Let's root for the underdog.  Onward Anand.  Kick butt and take names.  Laughing

Avatar of Senator-Blutarsky

Everyone's jumping on the BAnandwagon.

It won't ruffle Carlsen's feathers though, he's a one-man slaughterhouse.

Avatar of rooperi

A Pncher's chance is a boxing analogy. You beat the guy so bad it's an immediate win, the following rounds fall away.

I'm afraid there's no KO in chess, he might give Magnus a bloody nose in one or 2 games, but next round he'll have to do it again........

Avatar of The_Ghostess_Lola

He can kick him in the shins and run....that's what you do to monsters....Smile....but, it won't help.

Avatar of Shivsky

Well that's the whole point:  Carlsen is a demolition machine, a beast and appears unstoppable.  You think Team Anand doesn't know that?

So was Kaspy back in 2000.  Kramnik (granted, a much younger one) out-prepared him.  It is not inconcievable that Anand's team will come up with a plan.  They started on a plan last year ... and ahem ... the first draft (chennai) wasn't too successful, that's still a lot of data for their team to crunch down and try to do better.

Anand's past-his-prime performance for many years has earned him a lot of criticism, but this old man loves chess (probably more than anybody else in this forum for sure) and he obviously thinks he can face Carlsen again, even if we don't.  What he did these past few weeks convinces me that even if the world doesn't fancy his chances, he bloody well does.

What transpires in the months leading to November (psychological manuvering, venue controversies, tournament performances etc.) will be very, very interesting.  

Avatar of Thunder_Penguin

'THE MAGNUS TITAN CARSLEN!!!'

He's not a comp, so Vishi does have a good chance.

Doing the impossible?

Nothing is impossible.

Avatar of dashkee94

After seeing what Anand just did and what Ivanchuk just did, it's not impossible, but I played the long shot last match and lost (hey, I met Anand briefly once--I like the guy).  MagMax convinced me that his nerves are not as weak as I thought they were (from the last rounds of the CT) and that Anand may be a few years past the peak he needs to beat him.  I still find reasons to support the Tiger, but I feel that the best I can hope for from him is that he makes a better showing in this match than the last one.  Still, congrats to Anand--what he just did is amazing.

Avatar of Ubik42

"Anand should never trade pieces. Just strive for complications"

- a patzer

Avatar of Abhishek2

I think we're all underestimating Carlsen here. It depends on the form- Anand better keep his form. At least he's trying to win games this time. When he has a slight advantage against Carlsen he needs to be able to make it bigger. 

Avatar of Elubas

Shivsky, it's not inconceivable either to think there may simply not be a good plan against Carlsen, given the skill differences. It's giving a lot to Anand to simply assume that he wasn't doing the best he could with his preparation, especially since a rematch wouldn't have seemed likely back in last year's WCC.

The way I think of it, there is no plan that will give a good chance of success against Magnus, even if some plans are better than others.

And anyone who wants to make a big deal about Anand "ready to do so much better" is obligated to consider the same for Carlsen if they want to be logically consistent. Carlsen now knows what WCC's are like, and one should consider that the "nervous" games 1-3, that were unlike any others in the match, are rather unlikely to happen now -- Magnus knows how he can incorporate his style into match play from game one of any subsequent match he plays.

Anand can win, but it's pretty unlikely, maybe 20% likely.