Azukikuru, perhaps you and stevedavenati may want to adjourn to a more fitting forum to air your present views since I'm not sure it's helping our present predicament in trying to extinguish an, in my opinion, irrelevant topic. On a side note though, I dream of visiting your country to learn a thing or two from the great Ari Vatanen.
Yes, this is a good idea. Allow me to post one last message to redirect the discussion, which has moved way beyond Frendu and his plight anyway. And thanks for your comment - coincidentally, my first name is Ari, too!
I'm afraid I've been haunted by the issue of participation rates ever since I did my little study, which I posted here (anyone who wants to can continue the discussion there). I followed up by reading some articles that seemed to confirm my point with other sets of data. Even if some people may find it hard to believe, I honestly only wanted to find logically sound arguments for either side of the issue; I know that this interpretation of the data at hand cannot prove anything conclusively, so I wanted to hear what was "wrong" with the reasoning, since the currently fashionable excuses (participation rates, oppression) obviously were not logically viable.
Stevedavenati, your link in post #450 points to an interesting article, but I'm afraid it refers to studies that are 15 years old as far as participation rates are concerned. The articles that I mentioned above were written ten years later and included the history of discussion until then. What's worse, your article simply ignores a 35-point inter-gender difference as "not significant". The comments, however, were an interesting read. Comment #4 brings up a good point that I had not previously considered, and it may be viable if it can be statistically confirmed. Also, I'd like to direct your attention to comment #40 just for kicks. To conclude, I'd like to thank you for bringing this to my attention, and I'd like to apologize for my lack of interest in replying to your other post - I simply don't see that discussion as fruitful.
Frendu, you may be a troll, but the thread you started inadvertently evolved into something that satisfied my intellectual curiosity. As far as I'm concerned, the joke's on you.

hi, it wasnt game rather u. !!
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mmm.... Kosteniuk... *drools*