Does chess make people smart or only smart people play chess ?

Pikelemi wrote:
ESP-918 wrote:

Don't listen to those kids ! They don't know a thing, yet they think they know it all.

I will give the mos correct and most importantly ūüĒě answer.

To play chess you don't have to be smart ( you might know how the pieces move and have a rating 200, 300 range ) nothing smart about that anyone can do it.

NOW to play GOOD chess (1800+ rating range) you have to be SMART, INTELLIGENT. Now I'm not going to explain or argue with you why you have to be smart, intelligent, I will just say you have to look for definition what smart is !

Smart or intelligent is not just high IQ where's only kids think that all it takes to be smart. Intelligence is very large area of knowledge and ALSO if you didn't know it includes emotional intelligence, etc... PART of intelligence is MEMORY and to play good chess you MUST have good memory, so therefore people are intelligent, smart who play good chess.


If you play chess we now have a proof that also non-smart people play chess

Exactly my point!

BonTheCat wrote:

Don't confuse IQ, EQ, practical intelligence, and general social skills.

There are many examples of people who can play chess extremely well, but are more or less dysfunctional as human beings. Bobby Fischer was a perfect case in point. There's a Swedish GM who at one point in life was completely clueless with regards to everyday tasks. He didn't understand that once you've washed your clothes they need to be hung up to dry, not left in a wet/damp pile on the floor. Does that make him stupid? Most people of average, or even sub-average, intelligence would say so, and yet this guy is an academic with a doctorate. My old boss had a Ph.D in mathematics from Cambridge University, and yet he couldn't see any benefit to having a receptionist at our office, and decided to replace her with a flower pot - which confused visitors to our office since there was never anyone to greet them, receive deliveries, and of course constituted a business security risk (allowing any Tom, Dick, and Harry wonder around taking sneek peeks at at confidential business documents). We've seen similar things with the Silicon Valley whizz-kid companies, the people behind them are often highly intelligent, but have turned out to be rather unsavoury characters and poor business leaders guilty (directly or indirectly) of sexism, bullying, and other questionable business practices.

To be a little blunt, having a high IQ is not going to hurt you as chess player, but it's not a prerequisite. Furthermore, few of our skills as chess players are readily transferrable to other walks of life - Kasparov's political analysis rarely shines, and I'm genuinely surprised that he's able to make money on the speaking circuit, dishing out his chess wisdom to business people. In fact, I would say this is something of a 'the chicken or the egg' issue. Chess in schools is often sold on the premise that it helps pupils perform better in school, but research is not conclusive, and it may very well be that other games would produce similar results (because let's face it, games are a good way of rewarding children for keeping their focus during other times), and very few of those who learn chess in school actually become particularly skilfull. Most of them just shuffle the pieces around aimlessly, while the really good players often knew how to play chess beforehand.


hahahahahaha that thing about your boss... i can't stop laughing 


It has helped me to see further than the end of my nose. 


There are so many dimensions to "Smart" that the question is meaningless.  Math prodigals, physics prodigals, music prodigals, which of these, are "smart" people?  Good chess players can play several moves forward, in their imagination, more than the rest of us.  Is there more to it?  I don't think so. 


Dum S dropped all that knowledge on us and then went inactive. I wanted to say, "good read."