Does the Queen's Gambit Accurately Represent the Chess World?

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StormCentre3

The book is not obscure in the least. It’s rights were bought soon after publication. Tevis also wrote “The Hustler” and “The Color of Money” - two other Movies of the highest quality and acclaim making top 10 lists everywhere.

NilsIngemar
ogbumblingpatzer wrote:

Ah, you are one of those. Blocked.

Lol

StormCentre3
NilsIngemar wrote:

Do you really believe most people know their chrss history? You do not hang around normal people.

They know history- and know no such person existed except by the name of Fischer. If the story were real - everybody would know about - remember. If they are too young - it would be a matter of legend- known to every school boy/ girl. If people weren’t sure - they easily research wiki and learn it’s fiction. No - anybody who thinks it’s real soon discovers otherwise.The statement “most people think it’s real” is quite absurd.

EnergeticHay
chamo2074 wrote:

also, resignation by hugging in final game of WC

yeah... some of the resignations in the series were a bit weird

NilsIngemar

I had never heard of Bobby Fischer until I started studying chess when I was 38.  I was busy playing sports like baseball and football as well as school when I was a kid. Chess was nothing to me.

StormCentre3

The resignations were overdone - weren’t they. An image of mutual respect and sportsmanship was being represented. Not always the case in chess - unfortunately. I thought the final scenes were particularly overly dramatic. However- I do think the Russian people (as depicted) after Beths victory would be far more magnanimous, kindly and applauding of the result than an American counter part: if a Russian prodigy came to the U.S. and beat the U.S. WC - it would not be so pretty. 
Why? Because chess was understood to be what it is in Russia - from an early age. Not so in the U.S. where it is highly misunderstood.

eliothowell

Enjoying the series.  The evolution of Beth is interesting to see her slowly develop.  From a withdrawn child to a confident young woman thanks to chess.  The book was written in 1983.  In Delaware, we have 2 copies and 22 requests for the title.

 

StormCentre3

I signed up to Netflix specifically to tune in. Best $10 I’ve spent. Putting off a 2nd watch- till next month.

MovedtoLiches
BadBishopJones3 wrote:

I signed up to Netflix specifically to tune in. Best $10 I’ve spent. Putting off a 2nd watch- till next month.

I do not understand watching a show a 2nd time. Once I’ve seen a show, it’s not like I can unsee it and watch it again. It’s redundant. 

StormCentre3

Yep. I get it. Why read a book a 2nd time? 
Not all of us get all there is the 1st time around. Sometimes the entertainment is sooo good though and with nothing better in sight - we opt in for a 2nd go round. Like the Roller coaster at the fair. I did it once - never again. But for others- a repeat performance is mandatory.

StormCentre3

Nice review. The producers/ director took a few liberties- typical license to make appeal to the masses. And it worked beyond expectations.

It is not a movie designed to promote chess or glorify the sport. Neither was the book. Creative license is to be expected. Entertainment value is always the goal. For this a top notch job was done. The chess clearly depicted our world in a more realistic fashion than any other movie.

I think it’s particular praise is a result from those of us who lived through the Cold War. To this - it is a reminder of those times as period details were closely recreated and re-enacted. 

NikkiLikeChikki
@exploringwa I watched the show once, but have rewatched the chess scenes a couple more, skipping through the other parts. It’s still enjoyable.
AdveniatRegnumTuum

Aside from the ridiculous notion of a woman beating the greatest male Chess players...    obvious SJW feminist propaganda....

Moussetache
AdveniatRegnumTuum wrote:

Aside from the ridiculous notion of a woman beating the greatest male Chess players...    obvious SJW feminist propaganda....

How is that a ridiculous idea? Are you insinuating that a woman can't have the capability of becoming a world champion? 

 

NilsIngemar
Moussetache wrote:
AdveniatRegnumTuum wrote:

Aside from the ridiculous notion of a woman beating the greatest male Chess players...    obvious SJW feminist propaganda....

How is that a ridiculous idea? Are you insinuating that a woman can't have the capability of becoming a world champion? 

 

Is it impossible? No

 

Has it ever happened? No

 

Will you see it in your lifetime? Don't hold your breath.

FrankkRosetti

I'm guessing people find everything cringy nowadays... 
It's a good show and it's entertaining, which is what matters at the end of the day.

StormCentre3

Crow makes such trolling comments in every post/thread. Pay him no heed- it’s his MO seeking negative attention. An account a few days old. He’ll close it soon and start over again.

Scottrf
jetoba wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
A_fellow_gamer wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
A_fellow_gamer wrote:
A_fellow_gamer wrote:

I remember there being a blog talking about this

 

link?

This wasn't the exact one, but i found this one:

https://www.chess.com/blog/ppandachess/spoiler-alert-unrealistic-chess-details-i-noticed-in-the-miniseries-the-queens-gambit

 

Only one I disagree with is:

Beth losing all games to Benny at speed chess but them beating him and other top players SIMULTANEOUSLY shortly after, on the next episode.

I happen to think she threw those games.

She didn't have a lot of money and lost $5 (figure $25 in today's money) for each game so it was unlikely she was deliberately throwing them.  In the later episode she had been off drugs for a little while (a hint of what she could do when sober).


Potentially allowed her to win the US Open by learning how he plays.

Heritageoviya
Scottrf wrote:
jetoba wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
A_fellow_gamer wrote:
EnergeticHay wrote:
A_fellow_gamer wrote:
A_fellow_gamer wrote:

I remember there being a blog talking about this

 

link?

This wasn't the exact one, but i found this one:

https://www.chess.com/blog/ppandachess/spoiler-alert-unrealistic-chess-details-i-noticed-in-the-miniseries-the-queens-gambit

 

Only one I disagree with is:

Beth losing all games to Benny at speed chess but them beating him and other top players SIMULTANEOUSLY shortly after, on the next episode.

I happen to think she threw those games.

She didn't have a lot of money and lost $5 (figure $25 in today's money) for each game so it was unlikely she was deliberately throwing them.  In the later episode she had been off drugs for a little while (a hint of what she could do when sober).


Potentially allowed her to win the US Open by learning how he plays.

My guess is Beth is trying to see how Benny plays because both of them fully know that they are playing the next day. So she intentionally lost those games. You can also see that when she comes to her hotel room after playing those speed matches Beth closes the door and starts to smile because she figured Benny's "weakness."

NikkiLikeChikki
No. Clearly the show was saying that being with Benny was like a boot camp where she was forced to accept sobriety and just focus on chess.

It was a metaphor: shows do that.