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do we really need the draw offer in chess. in most otb tournament draw offers are just used to help other from the same club or a way to cheat.

it's not like the game is going on forever we have the 50 move rule.

I have offered draw even if I had a slight advantage because I was afraid of the endgame but what did I learn?

people against this may say a player might make an error if the game goes on in the endgame.

But could we just agree on a draw before the opening a player might make a mistake in the opening.

like josh waitzkin says chess isn't about perfection. it's about finding the best move. move by move.

Avatar of Tricklev

Yes, chess needs draw offers. The question is to stupid to deserve a motivation though.

Avatar of bobbyDK

sorry but I nearly stopped playing chess because of all the obvious cheating that goes on in the real tournaments. but I love chess.

But it something that bothers me big time that players do not play to win and just agree on a draw because they do not want to ruin the tournament for one and another and they do it openly and talk about it as if it was something you just do

Personally I think they should be banned from playing tournaments.

if noone challenges the existing rules of the game they will never be changed.

in 1600 they changed how many squares a pawn may move in the opening.

imagine somebody asking to change how a piece move today (silly isn't it - obvisously in 1600 it wasn't ) 

Avatar of blowerd
But could we just agree on a draw before the opening a player might make a mistake in the opening. --------------- Yes I guess so, but then again most people actually do have common sense before offering a draw, and if someone wants to cheat to effictively fix a draw, they can anyway.
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bobbyDK wrote:

do we really need the draw offer in chess. in most otb tournament draw offers are just used to help other from the same club or a way to cheat.


I really doubt that. Most draws are agreed upon in drawn positions (or when one side has an advantage, but is low on time). There's a lot of paranoia about pre-arranged draws, but I think it's mostly undue.

You might feel like checking Sofia Rules-they allow only draws by three-fold repetition, fifty move without pawn advance or capture, and theoretical draws (like a R+K vs R+K). They have been used in some tournaments, and can be good if there has been draw abuse in the previous years of the tournament. However, if the practice is not common, there's not much reason for such extreme steps. Especially at lower levels, I don't believe pre-arranged draws are common enough to warrant Sofia Rules.