Einstein called chess a waste of time, what do you think?

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Yup.  If I had a brain like Einstein's I might think the same too. 

But given that I don't... I might just keep at it for a while  :-P 

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Yoloswagger69 wrote:

As Einstein once quoted chess was a waste of time for him, he only played it to relax from his exhausting studies of physics. Do you think it is a waste?

maybe he will change his mind in the past!

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If he found chess relaxing he was doing it wrong

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theSongRemains escribió:

einstein was a copycat pysicist.

for cexample e=mc2 was found before him by Poincare

No, it wasn't. Poincaré found the operator group that generates all the transformations necessary in theory of relativity to change between reference frames. What Einstein did propose was the 4-vector formulation using Ricci calculus, and postulated that the speed of light is unchanged under Lorentz transformations and is frame invariant. Einstein then generalized the Euler-Lagrange equations of motion to account for the Lorentz transformation, and he found that the total energy is proportional to the scalar component or temporal component of the 4-momentum. Then, by using the Minkowski inner product, he found that mc^2 is a Lorentz invariant. Furthermore, since the conservation of momentum implies that p = ymv, where y is the Lorentz factor, this means that inevitably E = ymc^2. However, when v = 0, y = 1, so E = mc^2 is the rest energy of the object. This is what Einstein proved, but this is a small consequence of the larger theory he proposed.

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And many people think that his wife was the co-author of a lot of his work,  but she didn't get much credit for it. Nothing new there... :-(

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ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Still, he did do most of the vacuuming.

Well, he did do his best work in a vacuum.

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That's a patent lie!

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MindControl116 wrote:
staples13 escribió:

As far as expanding one’s intellect and cognitive abilities? Yes a giant waste of time.

 

as far as providing entertainment? Not a waste of time

 

Debatable.>>

It's just wrong. Hardly debatable. Einstein may not have been the brightest star in the intellectual cosmos and he was certainly very fixed in his views. He was stupid on some levels.

 

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CelticG wrote:

And many people think that his wife was the co-author of a lot of his work,  but she didn't get much credit for it. Nothing new there... :-(

Online it used to be possible to find his legal agreement with his first wife in full but now there's only an abridged version to be found. I think the people who have control of Einstein's intellectual estate must be suppressing some of it. Anyway, there was a stipulation that she wasn't to present any claims whatever that she had a part in his work and that she was in effect to continue as his servant etc etc and in return she would get all the Nobel Prize monies, which she did. That's pretty strong corroborating evidence that she helped him. There's some belief that she was the better mathematician but that due to the pressure of the relationship with Einstein she found the formal study too difficult. Incidentally, Einstein also based his work on that of Maxwell and others. He just joined a few loose ends. Obviously very clever but incapable of behaving well to others .... especially to women, so his views on chess can be disregarded as the views of a crank.

 

 

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And very notably, Einstein didn't credit Maxwell and others, which was a bit fraudulent in itself, even in those rather lax times. There's no doubt that had he acted the way he did these days, he'd be in prison for quite a range of crimes.

 

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Optimissed escribió:
MindControl116 wrote:
staples13 escribió:

As far as expanding one’s intellect and cognitive abilities? Yes a giant waste of time.

 

as far as providing entertainment? Not a waste of time

 

Debatable.>>

It's just wrong. Hardly debatable. Einstein may not have been the brightest star in the intellectual cosmos and he was certainly very fixed in his views. He was stupid on some levels.

 

When I said debatable, I was referring to the former claim in the quote, not the latter. This is my fault for not clarifying.

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Optimissed escribió:

And very notably, Einstein didn't credit Maxwell and others, which was a bit fraudulent in itself, even in those rather lax times. There's no doubt that had he acted the way he did these days, he'd be in prison for quite a range of crimes.

 

Okay, this is just false. I understand the fact that he probably didn't admit his wife helped him, and I understand he wasn't the nicest person in the world, but he did credit Maxwell and other physicists who contributed to his work alright. In fact, the literal fundamental postulate of special relativity as Eisntein proposed it was that the equations of Maxwell were true in all inertial frames of reference. In doing so, he credited Maxwell. Listen, I didn't go to university to study his theories and read the papers and review its evolution just to have a couple of conspiracy theories saying he didn't credit the people who provided the theoretical foundation for his theory to be possible.

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ed1975 wrote:

Perhaps he meant a pastime, rather than a waste of time?

I agree.
From what I've heard, Einstein quite enjoyed the game of Chess, and was somewhat "good" at it.

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Einstein greatly respected Maxwell, and recognised his crucial position in the history of physics, second only to that of Newton.

He said:

"The special theory of relativity owes its origins to Maxwell's equations of the electromagnetic field."

He also said:

"Since Maxwell's time, physical reality has been thought of as represented by continuous fields, and not capable of any mechanical interpretation. This change in the conception of reality is the most profound and the most fruitful that physics has experienced since the time of Newton"

Viewed from a century later, Einstein was dead right.

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I think It's not a waste of time if you like playing it.

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Elroch escribió:

Einstein greatly respected Maxwell, and recognised his crucial position in the history of physics, second only to that of Newton.

He said:

"The special theory of relativity owes its origins to Maxwell's equations of the electromagnetic field."

He also said:

"Since Maxwell's time, physical reality has been thought of as represented by continuous fields, and not capable of any mechanical interpretation. This change in the conception of reality is the most profound and the most fruitful that physics has experienced since the time of Newton"

Viewed from a century later, Einstein was dead right.

Well said! I'm not saying Einstein is a moral role model, but credit is given where credit is due!

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She said he said.

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 I have read all the books written by/abt  Enstien, mathematically derived from his general and special when I was was a young tike.  I remember he was married twice the last being his second cousin which he gave the proceeds to in a divorce settlement. 

By today's standards, he would be considered very liberal, that's all I can remember. I never read any comments he made abt chess. 

 

I guess I will throw out there that his general & special T, affected me to a degree that I have never looked at reality the same which also crammed an advanced degree in mathematics plus physics in my back pocket whilst being an electrical engineer. (retired).  

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Sounds like he's saying that he still plays it to relax which is good but then he said it was a waste of time. I guess he thinks that relaxing is a waste of time.  

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pawn8888 wrote:

Sounds like he's saying that he still plays it to relax which is good but then he said it was a waste of time. I guess he thinks that relaxing is a waste of time.  

Has anyone identified a location and specific quoted sentence for this wasted-time thing?