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Which piece/s would you rather have in end game Bishop/s or Knights? Weakness and advantages?

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Bishops rule almost always.

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If all of the pawns are on the same side of the board, I would undoubtedly choose the knight.  However, if there are several pawn islands, spanning the length and width of the board, a bishop could easily save the game.  Also, if the pawns are locked and the position is somewhat closed, I would prefer a knight.  Of course, this could change if there are other pieces, such as rooks, involved.  I would almost always choose two bishops over other minor piece combinations.  However, I prefer two knights over a bishop and a knight.

Hope this helped!

~ Flying2828 °·°

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flying2828 wrote:

If all of the pawns are on the same side of the board, I would undoubtedly choose the knight.  However, if there are several pawn islands, spanning the length and width of the board, a bishop could easily save the game.  Also, if the pawns are locked and the position is somewhat closed, I would prefer a knight.  Of course, this could change if there are other pieces, such as rooks, involved.  I would almost always choose two bishops over other minor piece combinations.  However, I prefer two knights over a bishop and a knight.

Hope this helped!

~ Flying2828 °·°

Excellent point, but, I think both pieces are equal as is everything else at the beginning of the game. It is the players preferrence on how he/she will develop the pawns to accomodate such advantage as you pointed.  

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Yes, I agree Laughing.

Just to illustrate my point more, here are a few diagrams:

I think that it is obvious here that black has the much harder game.  His bishop will be constantly threatened, and sooner or later, white will be able to force his king into the black position.  Even though black's pawns are more advanced, I would much prefer white here.

I am fairly certain that black is completely won here.  The bishop can pursue the g-pawn while the king infiltrates on the queenside.  White's king will be tied up protecting his kingside, and black's king will easily force away white's knight and win at least a pawn.

The transition between opening and middlegame and then middlegame and endgame has never been very clear to me...  My solution to that is to play rather aggressively to force my opponent to make those decisions Tongue out.  Often, this could be disastrous, though, especially at the 2000+ level.  I cannot, in good conscience, comment on those transitions.

~ Flying2828 °·°

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Yes it depends on if the bishop is the classic "bad" bisohp -- also with pawns on both sides but knight has a strong outpost, usually in the center, then it can equalize against the bishop.

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it all depends on pawn structure or if it is an open or locked game. If it is open, meaning pawns are spread out, i think bishop is better than knight.