You mean you are not expecting to get stalemated. You'd be surprised how many players will make that mistake, and just often enough I'd guess that opponents will wait it out to see if they can squeak out the draw. If you are really up 2Q to nothing, you should be able to finish them off quick enough.
Etiquette in resigning
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Sep 2, 2016
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I get more offended when people resign. I think you should take the checkmate if you lost. More satisfying.
Depends on the time control. I get stalemated all the time by 2000's in bullet
Sep 2, 2016
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The stronger the players and the longer the time control (and the longer it's going to take to mate) the more rude (and less common) it is.
So for beginners it's common. They still think anything could happen. And e.g. if you're up two queen but it's mate in 2 and they don't resign (and they don't slow down their play) then it's just playing on momentum and it's not to be rude. And of course if you're down to a few seconds then stalemate is a real possibility.
One exception over the board at long time controls comes to mind. Sometimes kids are told by their coach to not resign and play all the way until mate. Over the years these kids get better but sometimes keep this habit of not resigning, but they don't mean it to be rude. I've played a few young teens like this.
Fighting to the end is what you should do. Never give up. If you stalemate him, that's your problem not the other person's. You can't say that it's bad sportsmanship; it's not giving up.
Sep 2, 2016
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#7
In general I don't mind as long as they don't suddenly slow down.
Sep 2, 2016
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#8
I often wonder why an opponent wants to play to checkmate, but the games usually proceed quickly and require little thought (avoiding stalemate is the big issue). The players that irk me are those that won't agree to a draw in an obviously drawn position, and we make 50 aimless moves until I claim the draw.
0110001101101000 wrote:
The stronger the players and the longer the time control (and the longer it's going to take to mate) the more rude (and less common) it is.
So for beginners it's common. They still think anything could happen. And e.g. if you're up two queen but it's mate in 2 and they don't resign (and they don't slow down their play) then it's just playing on momentum and it's not to be rude. And of course if you're down to a few seconds then stalemate is a real possibility.
One exception over the board at long time controls comes to mind. Sometimes kids are told by their coach to not resign and play all the way until mate. Over the years these kids get better but sometimes keep this habit of not resigning, but they don't mean it to be rude. I've played a few young teens like this.
Thanks, that's a good point. My 10 year old daughter was taught to at Chess Camp to play to the end. I guess because I played professional golf, my thinking comes from there, you of course don't see Vishy making Magnus (for example) finish a game from an obvious losing position, they resign.
gomi123 wrote:
Fighting to the end is what you should do. Never give up. If you stalemate him, that's your problem not the other person's. You can't say that it's bad sportsmanship; it's not giving up."
No offense, but not referring to the lower rated players, no issue with players around 1000 playing to the end. Again, not trying to offend, but was more curious of higher rated players.
If you have two queens and your opponent has nothing then it is an easy win, and it's good practice too. I find it more enjoyable to win by checkmate rather than by resignation, it feels more "decisive".
Sep 2, 2016
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Lasker1900 wrote:
The etiquette of resigning is quite simple: You, the player, are the sole judge of when it appropriate to resign. Only when you are satisfied that you have no chance of survival, and there is no instructive value in continuing, then you should resign. Nobody else's opinion matters.
I find it really annoying when people copy and paste dictionary definitions... but I'm really tempted to remind you of the definition for etiquette 
In the end, yes, it's up to an individual, but etiquette is a social construct.
woton wrote:
I often wonder why an opponent wants to play to checkmate, but the games usually proceed quickly and require little thought (avoiding stalemate is the big issue). The players that irk me are those that won't agree to a draw in an obviously drawn position, and we make 50 aimless moves until I claim the draw.
What do you define as an "obviously drawn position"? Miracles happen
Sep 2, 2016
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In blitz and bullet it's a little different of course, because of the clock.
Sep 2, 2016
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Ninjakiwi17 wrote:
What do you define as an "obviously drawn position"? Miracles happen
Here's a good example
K+R vs K+R is another (yes, it's not guaranteed, but after 20 moves, it should be obvious where the game is headed).
K + R vs K + R is not that drawn, i flag my opponents all the time. When they get low on time they start hanging rooks, but the example above should be a Draw.
Sep 2, 2016
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#17
Depends on the venue. In OTB tournaments, which usually use time delays or increments, time is not that much of a factor. On-line, if I have three or more minutes left, I can usually get 50 moves in. In most of my K+R endgames, I've had more than five minutes left on my clock, so time wasn't a factor.
Well, I'm glad this sparked a little more conversation than "fight to the end guy" offered. EVERY SPORT/GAME has unwritten rules of etiquette, I think it's important to follow them rather than imposing a "I never give up no matter what" mentality. I've played a lot of games here, if somebody beats me, I have no issue tipping my cap and resigning, however I will try not to get annoyed when somebody plays out an obvious defeated position. I think playing for a stalemate is kind of lame, but to each their own.
Oh, I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings "fight to the end guy". Gosh I'm sorry, you keep playing for that stalemate.
Reread the opening post smart guy, I'm not talking about positions like the one he mentioned, I'm talking about OBVIOUS losing positions. I never said I lost these games, nor have I been stalemated in these positions.
The post was about etiquette, not your personal beliefs.
If you are in fact 10 years old, you are clearly a very gifted player, but you have a lot to learn. You know more about life than I do??? Really? I'm a 38 year old double board certified Physician and mother of 2, I've seen more "life" and "death" in the last week than you have in your life. Please learn to respect adults they still have a lot to teach you.
I'm through argueing with you.
I played golf at a very high competitive level for many years, there is certainly a point in match play where if you don't concede a hole from an obvious lost position, you'll get a bad rep. In fact it's unheard of in professional golf.
Thanks for any thoughts.