Examples of Soviet cheating in FIDE competition: Petrosian-Korchnoi match, 1971

It's a curious thing how any subject that helps condemn the former Soviet Union still raises a great interest. It's been over 25 years since the Berlin Mauer felt down and almost as long since the USSR fragmented. Memories of scattered, partial and biased-reported real facts from back then have been conveniently shaped according to every one's prejudices. Others read those memories and take them for granted or deny them at will.

JamieDelarosa views are pretty clear and probably petrified, but for those of you who would like to have more matter of opinion I'd recommend to watch some good and entertaining soviet movies, where the overwhelming normality of those times gets portraited.

One is a comedy (one of Eljanov's favorite moves, by the way, shot in Baku, which lead him to take a "locations tour" thorugh the city on one rest day during the recent World Cup) entitled: "Brilliantovaya ruka" (Diamonds arms).

The other one is, say, a drama, or rather an intelectual drama: "Moscow doesn't believe in tears". It goes from the post-war till the back then (70's) present USSR and it's a very interesting movie, absolutely non-propaganda, which should remove many prejudices.

Getting to the subject of this thread, I believe many facts regarding the soviet GMs and federation intrigues are viewed in the light of drama when they probably were casual or even comedy.

You cannot say intrigues are out of rule nowadays or individual careers don't get harmed, even destroyed by arbitrary decissions of "superior entities". We call "high politics" to the former and "losers" to the later and that's it, dude.

I can only write so much.  The topic of this article is about whether Soviet political authorities intervened in the Korchnoi-Petrosian match of 1971.

In a 12 game match once a player reaches 6.5 there is no need to play more games , the match is decided at 6.5 . 

all draws or equal number of wins can still result in 6.5  to 6.5    Please explain. Thats 13 games obviously but whats the point of mentioning it ? after 12 games it jumps  from 6-6 to 6.5-6.5.  

6.5 + 6.5 = 13

The match that came before Fischer-Petrosian (1971, best of 12) was Korchnoi-Petrosian (1971, best of 10).  The Korchnoi-Petrosian match is the one in which the Soviet authorities intervened to determine Fischer's opponent (Fischer had already defeated Larsen 6-0).

"The Korchnoi-Petrosian match is the one in which the Soviet authorities intervened to determine Fischer's opponent"

Karpov claimed that Korchnoi threw the match to be given other rewards. This doesn't make it a fact that it did happen, Korchnoi always denied this and Karpov himself admits that there is no proof.

Wow. 

I just discovered this thread, read the first 5 or 6 pages, then flipped to the current discussion. 

It looks like the discussion has just been going around and around.

Reb earlier accused people who didn't agree that Fischer was the greatest of all time of being Communist sympathizers. 

Robert Byrne stated that Kasparov was the best ever. His statement was based on playing both. 

Btw, you probably don't want to take the comments of Karpov, Korchnoi or Petrosian at face value. They all had excellent reasons for putting forth certain narratives.

And yes, Jamie, even after the fall of the Soviet Union the personal differences continued. 

Sorry, I forgot that the site doesn't state when and where the quote was made. That was in this thread, about 5 weeks ago. It's currently post #82, on page 5.

I was addressing one person and he truly has displayed communist sympathies , defending them at every opportunity . I did NOT say what you claimed I said . Your comprehension is simply flawed .  I even said his name at the end of the sentence . ( handle ) 

The topic tended to drift.

I have truly displayed communist sympathies and defend them at every opportunity? :-)

Just look at their leadership at that time.Breznev was a thief.Of course they were cheating. It was part of the tradition in the USSR.

1) it's Brezhnev

2) and your source for this amazing piece of information is ...?

Whad did you say then? My comprehension must be as flawed as SmyslovFan's because I interpret your quoted post the same way.

  The Kingmaker by Brian Haig

  ROSSIYA: Voices from the Brezhnev Era

The Kingmaker by Brian Haig

Category: Thrillers & Suspense

I have no further questions, I think.