Fischer and the "Ka"s

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Whether or not Karpov would have beaten Fischer or not is an argument that will always stir emotions and facts alike. But a few have suggested that Fischer was so strong he would have even beaten Kasparov. Maybe if they were both in their prime – but that becomes even more hypothetical. What I wish to raise is: If Kasparov and Fischer had met in 1984, 85 (Fischer into his 40s and Kasparov coming into his prime) I recon Kasparov would have prevailed. Please advise.

KnightOfTheLivinDead

Hard to say, but Kasparov probably would have had the advantage.

Garry became much stronger in 1985, primarily by learning from Karpov in their matches.

Fischer once took a year off from competition, and was very "rusty".

In 1984, Bobby would have experienced serious "rust".

TalSpin
I think Fischer would have held the WC for a good 10 years if he'd continued to be an active player. Karpov would have had decent chances though. In the 80's... Kasparov may not have won a first match with Fischer, but he definitely would have won a second match. Fischer's advantage over his contemporaries, IMHO, was that he really had no life. Chess was everything to him. But by the 80's, his stamina would have been on the decline. Of course, there's always the possibility he could have had great longevity as WC. Sadly, we'll never know :( too bad he went berserk in his older age. He was a hero to many, especially in the US.
u0110001101101000

Yeah, age would have mattered.

Just a note about Kasaprov's ability vs Karpov's, remember in the over 100 match games they played, the score is about 51% Kasparov and 49% Karpov. Kasparov was always barely winning the matches. Not to take anything away from Kasparov of course, but I think some people tend to underestimate Karpov.

BronsteinPawn

Yes poor Karpov, no one really cares about him, Kasparov stole all his fame and took the chess theater over.

That happens when you are arrogant and try to squeeze everyone.

BronsteinPawn

Yeah, he would have beaten Kasparov now that I think about it.

Remember Fischer's preparation, now imagine it if he were to be aided by computers/seconds.

GodsPawn2016
BronsteinPawn wrote:

Yes poor Karpov, no one really cares about him, Kasparov stole all his fame and took the chess theater over.

That happens when you are arrogant and try to squeeze everyone.

I dont think Karpov has anything to hang his head about:

His tournament successes include over 160 first-place finishes

90 total months at world number one is the second longest of all-time, behind only Garry Kasparov

World Champion1975–85.  1993–99 (FIDE)

Karpov represented the Soviet Union at six Chess Olympiads, in all of which the USSR won the team gold medal.

In five world championship matches with Kasparov, Karpov scored 19 wins, 21 losses, and 104 draws in 144 games.

Karpov is on record saying that if he had had the opportunity to play Fischer for the crown in his twenties, he could have been a much better player as a result.