(for athletes) Have you encountered individuals adamant about chess as sport?

But you ask the same question three times now. The answer is "it depends on what you mean by sport."

Or more precisely if you like: whether an element is in a set depends on the exact criteria for membership in the set.

This is effective the same question too. It's a sport, but it's not athletics, by the definitions I provided. If you like other definitions you can get other results. It's a linguistic question.

It is similar to Plato asking soldiers to define "courage" or judges to define "justice" and then showing that they can't. It's true that they can't, at least not precisely. But it only shows a limitation of language. Chess as sport is just another example.

Or as Wittgenstein said "of what we cannot speak, it is better to be silent." Or something close to that--didn't look it up. Meaning, if you can't even agree on your terms, it's a waste of time. This whole discussion is basically a failure to agree on terms.

Quartered isn't likely to answer you. I am answering you. It's a question of definitions. It's a word game. It has no universally correct answer.

That was my description of the Greek (operational) definition. It's not so bad, but I probably should have distinguished further. The Greeks had two war gods (Athena and Ares). Athena was more goddess of war in the strategic sense (the one you seem to favor). Ares was more like god of the fighting itself. What the Greeks were doing in the Olympics was more about the second thing.

Still, it comes down to what is meant by words, not to the thing itself. Chess is what it is (a thing-in-being, Sarte would have said). What we call it is debatable, because it is only a question of language.

That's fair. She was goddess of several things including war (the strategic, or intellectual side of it).

It's fair enough. The Parthenon was, in fact, the (main) temple of Athena (in Athens). She had many others.

But the other question--chess as sport--is like many others that get debated in the world. It comes down to a disagreement over terms.

To put it another way, it is a debate about the semantics of the word "sport".

put weights in your lawn set & play 3-min games (loser does 20 pushups) until you agree that chess is a sport or have a heart attack. 😄

So what you are saying is since chess is a martial art, meaning from Mars, only true sports originated on other planets. Or are you saying chess is American football, metaphorically, meaning there is more money in chess than any other sport?

Is basketball a sport? The ball goes into the net, not the player.

Jesus! [removed -- MS]! Christ!
I come back a little later and there’s an additional 2 pages to the thread?
And the top line is “Athena was virgin born.”?
A thread for “Why do people who think chess is a sport seem so adamant about it?” contains [removed ]“Athena was virgin born.” 😆
Go outside. Smoke marijuana. Realize a 3σ IQ isn’t insurance against (really obnoxious) overintellectualization. Try some deadlift therapy. Smoke more weed. Ponder your insignificance in the multiverse - you know… quietly 😆
PS: If I login from my computer, can I delete a thread I started? Asking for a friend 😆

Which is of course why chess originated in Greece. Zeus invented the game, sometime in the 1880s. Before the internet, but after fire.

nope

Three comments now blocked as inappropriate. I am only a native English speaker with a Master's Degree level of proficiency, so it's possible I misunderstand, but I think I've said nothing inappropriate.

Maybe I should stop paying this site and go to lichess?

perhaps you are quoting inappropriate comments & getting dinged for it? 🤔

I thought of that but...they let the comment through in the first place...