Fritz pirated cds in Indian cities.

Henry Rollins is rediculous.

Now you are simply slobbering copious amounts of drool, I said no such thing, these sentiments that you are expressing are the construct of your mind, not mine and to be quite frank, you might believe your own propaganda but I don't know why you expect other people to also believe it, I certainly don't.

Then perhaps you would be kind enough to enlighten me as to what the irony is.

I already have and you failed to grasp it the fist time and instead constructed some straw man argument on the basis of nothing more than a projection of your own mind. It had nothing to do with the Dead Kennedys or Justin Beiber.  I will try once again.  The irony is that the punk ethos was a reaction against the perception that musicians had made themselves into idols that needed adoration, thus the term Rock Gods. One only need to view the ideology that was rampant at the time, 'We are stardust we are golden', 'Clapton is God', etc etc In becoming successful bands like the Sex Pistols became in a way idols themselves through the  process of performing and being published as did Nirvana who professed to attempt to keep the punk ethos alive. This was the irony I was referring to.  I have explained once and I will not do so again.

Firstly, let me apoligize for bumping this thread. It's been inactive for a couple of weeks, and I know I'm jumping in late, but I just saw this thread and wanted to contribute my two cents' worth.

Of course MP3s are killing music. This is obviously so because the big monied players who have profited the most from music said so. They also said the same thing back when the audio cassette hit the consumer market. They also said the same thing way back in the day when radio hit the consumer market as well. Afterall, who would ever pay to hear musicians play when they can just listen to the radio for free? But as it turns out music didn't die nearly a century ago, and it won't die now.

Yes, the big labels that are parts of huge, multinational media conglomerates may be seeing a decline in profits. Yes, CD sales for artists on these labels might be declining. Of course there's also the iTunes factor there. It's now no longer necessary to pay $17.99 for a Britney Spears CD just for those two songs you want off it. Now you can't simply pay $1.98 for those two songs you want off it.

Most artists have never made a living from album sales. Hell, mosts artists have never seen any money from album sales. In an industry where the label "pays" for everything, but takes everything out of the band's end few can make any money at all from album sales. For most artists, particularly under the big label system, albums have always been a means to promote the band's concerts. Case in point: legendary Canadian punk/prog/thrash hybrid Voivod, who in the late 1980s-early 1990s made a string of albums for MCA (now owned, I believe, by Universal (itself part of a multinational conglomerate owned by General Electric, Comcast cable and NBC television)). To this day, more than two decades later, the band have not seen one single penny from those albums because the label claims it has never re-couped what it invested in those albums (which includes everything from studio time, to advertisment, to purchasing blow for coked up executives and promoters).

For ever big conglomerate label that claims declining sales there are dozens of small and independant label who will swear that their sales have climed since the advent of MP3s and file sharing. For every band that no longer enjoys status as MTV darlings there are countless artists who, thanks to the internet, MPs, Soundcloud, etc, etc can get their music out there to people, who never would have been heard under the old system. The thing that really scalds the music industry the most is that they no longer have exclusive dominion over the means of distribution.

Finally, here's music veteran Steve Albini (you've probably heard at least a few of the records he's worked on) with some parting thoughts on the current state of the industry (it's a long read, but it's well worth it no matter your stance on the issue): http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/17/steve-albinis-keynote-address-at-face-the-music-in-full

Most excellent, that is why i love soundcloud, there is access to lots of artists that we would never have known about.  You hit the nail smack bang on the head, its about control.

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Listen to Sheavy.