From a Psychological Standpoint, what is the point of becoming a grandmaster?

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Why would someone want to become a grandmaster even though they could be one of the best in the world already? A hypothetical question, but it does lead to what is the point of being a grandmaster?
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Grandmasters are one of the best around the world.

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First become a Grand master then you can feel that you are one of the greatest

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JatinStrikes wrote:

First become a Grand master then you can feel that you are one of the greatest

The path towards becoming a GM might feel miserable for people like me. I like Chess as a hobby. Not as a full time job. I don't particularly enjoy the larger expectation, larger attention, etc. that would naturally come from it. I prefer playing chess over a relaxed environment with relaxed people. Ideally in board game night or friendly tournaments.

I also like that I could go about my improvement on my own pace. I don't enjoy having to give it too much attention as there are more important things in life. I like Chess as a social activity or a brain exercise. Not too crazy about the competitive aspect of it.

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Yeah, I guess I’m wondering what causes people to want to compete at such a competitive level for so long?
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Heliocrab wrote:
Yeah, I guess I’m wondering what causes people to want to compete at such a competitive level for so long?

They like to play chess

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You need to have a passion to be one of the best in the world at something. So obviously it comes down to passion.

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Heliocrab wrote:
Why would someone want to become a grandmaster even though they could be one of the best in the world already? A hypothetical question, but it does lead to what is the point of being a grandmaster?

to be able to play in grandmaster tournaments.

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Money, fame, but mostly money.....

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I feel a large part of the appeal is the very clear cut nature of chess. The rules are precise. It is a fair game. You know what you have to do. Achieving the GM title is the same, despite being a very lofty goal. A factor in that aim might be the idea that if you are a GM you can make a career of chess. But maybe it's more the honour of the highest title in chess (unless you count "world champion").

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Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:

Money, fame, but mostly money.....

And the women. Goodness, have you seen the groupies?

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sawdof wrote:
Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:

Money, fame, but mostly money.....

And the women. Goodness, have you seen the groupies?

Groupies? Wow what does 1380 rapid get me? Asking for a friend?????

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Sololevelingsirjohn wrote:

Money, fame, but mostly money.....

Money will make you more of what you already are.

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@wiredtearow then my advice is not for you buddy, ignore it because you can't handle pressure. So don't think about becoming a GM then

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JatinStrikes wrote:

@wiredtearow then my advice is not for you buddy, ignore it because you can't handle pressure. So don't think about becoming a GM then

Calm down you're not even 1k elo to be insulting people like that. Idk where this trash behaviour came from. I was completely respectful in my response. I just offered a different perspective. The idea that people can't handle pressure when they aren't striving to be a GM is a low IQ take. I have a job, life responsibilities, and a family to feed. I do enough pressure and stress. The last thing I want is a hobby that takes over everything else.

Also, your "advice" wasn't even an advice. It wasn't helpful at all for anyone. It's more of a comment than an advice.

The reality is, a lot of GMs could only get there because their families sponsored their chess coach, books, boot camp, could afford flights to go on tournaments, etc. when they were still kids. Being a GM is not free and winning tournaments is not even a reliable career. These people often have the luxury to play chess as much as they want.

For a lot of GMs, it's a matter of personal circumstance + talent + hardwork. For example, I consider Levy (GothamChess) to be talented and he's much closer to becoming a GM than you, me, and most players in here. But some GMs don't really see him ever becoming a GM and when you hear their argument as to why, they seem to be coming from a reasonable place. So if Levy can't become one, what makes you think that anyone could be a GM?

Low elo player gives a comment on how to become a GM and what it takes. Really rich stuff.

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Having a title is having recognition that you are one of the best. It’s one of the milestones. The same reason that people who are rated 999 want to get that extra point.

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wiredtearow wrote:

... Low elo player gives a comment on how to become a GM and what it takes. Really rich stuff.

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