Game Explorer used for live games

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bradh

Hi,

The new Game Explorer feature seems like a great idea for newbies like myself to learn about the game.  But what's to stop people using it to help them with their live games?  Couldn't you just go into it, input the moves that have happened so far in your game and then select the next move with the highest chance of a win for yourself?

Am interested in others feedback... 


d33my
i guess its just another form of cheating, which is not tolerated. It's not really any different than those people who use a prog to make their moves.  I think we'll just have to rely on the honesty of people
Baseballfan
bradh wrote:

Hi,

The new Game Explorer feature seems like a great idea for newbies like myself to learn about the game.  But what's to stop people using it to help them with their live games?  Couldn't you just go into it, input the moves that have happened so far in your game and then select the next move with the highest chance of a win for yourself?

Am interested in others feedback... 


 Well, I would hope that for most people, the fact that it is cheating would be enough. But, for those who have no conscience, that fact that it really is too slow for blitz games would help.

Also, while I don't know a whole lot about chess.com's anti-cheating methods, I'm sure that a quick study of the logs to see the same person on both the games explorer and in live chess silmaultaenously would be both easy, and definitive. 


erik
we have our ways :D
chessdadx3
cheaters dont love the game, only THEMSELVES!!!!!
Joe14
Games explorer are cool
Baseballfan
Nighty wrote:

For turn-based-games, the explorer should be ok ... it's like correspondence chess, and there it's ok, too.

For live games its critical, but seems too slow.


 You are right, it is legal to use the explorer during turn-based games, so this isn't an issue. And, as I've said, even if someone were playing a live game at a slow enough speed that use of the explorer is feasible, it wouldn't be very hard to detect that from chess.com's end.


normajeanyates

Sorry? my second computer is one-way-networked out of this one - and *that* one runs an ultrafast database - it is updated weekly by me. How do you stop that?

My partner is a GM and s/he plays all livechess games for me. What do you do about it?

(The *I* is hypothetical; the real I doesn't play live chess here.)


erik
if someone is going to cheat, why on earth would they use the Game Explorer instead of just loading up an engine? plus, the games explorer is only useful for the first set of moves. that doesn't win games. :)
BirdsDaWord
Erik, does www.chess.com have an analysis forum?  I used to use a different server in the past, and not only could you play live games, but there was an "area" to go called "Broadcast" where you could "play" moves, give and take control, type analysis, plot diagrams with thoughts...it was very helpful.  I will be purchasing my membership most likely this weekend, I just want to learn all the cool things about this site.  We would have so much fun getting on the web and analysing offbeat openings, devising traps, etc. 
billwall
There is a chess openings and game analysis forum that people contribute to.  Game Explorer could be used to see what people are playing, or you can look at your own games and see what you have played (or not played) and the statistics behind it.  I need to play more off the Wall openings with 1.Nh3 and 1.Na3 and 1.g4 games, and reply with 1.e4 Nh6 or ...g5 or ...a6 more often.
likesforests

billwall> I need to play more off the Wall openings with 1.Nh3

According to the "My Games" explorer, White scores 22% with 1.e4 and 0% with 1.d4. Apparently, those are the lines to avoid.  (:


GotGoose
People need to spend less time worrying about cheaters and spend more time improving their own game. Besides, people can cheat anyway (much faster too) with a program like Fritz, Chessmaster, etc.