How can I improve chess visualization and calculation?

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CrnlKurtz

You have to work more on having a partner moving the pieces on a real chessboard, you have to be blindfolded, play that way, at first it will be very frustrating, keep building up this skill until you can visualize the board and the position of the pieces, at least that is what I have read. I have been practicing, not as much as I should, but I have been able to calculate two or three moves ahead, sometimes even four, very rarely. Use your imagination, try to visualize the board with the pieces and imagine what move would your opponent make. Hope it helps you and others grin.png

KingSideInvasion
Manatini wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

the first move I think of actually tends to be the correct move.

After 500+ blitz games your rating is 800...

 

KingSideInvasion wrote:

 I think this has to do with my "chess personality" which is "prodigy".

That test is just a silly gimmick. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just telling you the truth.

 

KingSideInvasion wrote:

How can I improve chess visualization and calculation?

This is a good question.

The answer is beyond chess, and applies to any skill: 

Practice the thing you want to improve.

If you want to improve calculation and visualization then solve untimed tactics where you spend as long as 1 hour on calculation. When your visualization starts to get fuzzy, memorize the position, and start your calculation anew from there.

Well yes, I suppose practice makes perfect... But I am struggling severly with visualizing positions that aren't on the current position.

KingSideInvasion
Manatini wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

the first move I think of actually tends to be the correct move.

After 500+ blitz games your rating is 800...

 

KingSideInvasion wrote:

 I think this has to do with my "chess personality" which is "prodigy".

That test is just a silly gimmick. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just telling you the truth.

 

KingSideInvasion wrote:

How can I improve chess visualization and calculation?

This is a good question.

The answer is beyond chess, and applies to any skill: 

Practice the thing you want to improve.

If you want to improve calculation and visualization then solve untimed tactics where you spend as long as 1 hour on calculation. When your visualization starts to get fuzzy, memorize the position, and start your calculation anew from there.

I do not believe the test to be completely accurate, but I do think that it has some accuracy to it.

KingSideInvasion
Manatini wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:
Manatini wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

the first move I think of actually tends to be the correct move.

After 500+ blitz games your rating is 800...

I only played blitz as a beginner untill I realized that it doesn't help my chess improvement. Also, 500 blitz games is less than you think

I've been playing chess for nearly 20 years and this beginner is telling me "it's less than you think."

You have no idea what "I think" 

Ok, I think it's time to point out that you aren't being the most pleasant person.

KingSideInvasion
Manatini wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

Well yes, I suppose practice makes perfect... But I am struggling severly with visualizing positions that aren't on the current position.

Of course. We all start out that way.

Just saying.

The point is that I'm having problems solving tactics. I understand that I need to train tactics, but how are tactics improving my skills if I can barely solve them?! I lear n from my mistakes, but the thing is in looking at the position like 5 moves into the future.

HudsonFosterK

xD He never has been!

KingSideInvasion
CrnlKurtz wrote:

You have to work more on having a partner moving the pieces on a real chessboard, you have to be blindfolded, play that way, at first it will be very frustrating, keep building up this skill until you can visualize the board and the position of the pieces, at least that is what I have read. I have been practicing, not as much as I should, but I have been able to calculate two or three moves ahead, sometimes even four, very rarely. Use your imagination, try to visualize the board with the pieces and imagine what move would your opponent make. Hope it helps you and others

Thanks, I will definitely try it though it seems hard 😅

CrnlKurtz

You have to evaluate every move, and after a move is made you have to ask yourself. What changed in the position? It is very hard, I am still working on it, only practice will make you a chess GM.

KingSideInvasion
CrnlKurtz wrote:

You have to evaluate every move, and after a move is made you have to ask yourself. What changed in the position? It is very hard, I am still working on it, only practice will make you a chess GM.

I am pretty good at that when for example I am in a daily game with The "analyze" option where I can calculate variations by moving the actual pieces, but I fail to see it in my mind 😢

KingSideInvasion
KingSideInvasion wrote:
CrnlKurtz wrote:

You have to evaluate every move, and after a move is made you have to ask yourself. What changed in the position? It is very hard, I am still working on it, only practice will make you a chess GM.

I am pretty good at that when for example I am in a daily game with The "analyze" option where I can calculate variations by moving the actual pieces, but I fail to see it in my mind 😢

Anyways thanks a lot for the valuable advice 😃

pdve
KingSideInvasion wrote:

I have a problem with tactics and overall chess moves... I tend to find candidate moves instinctually within 5-10 seconds, and the first one I think of actually tends to be the correct move. I always have the general idea in my head as it pops up instinctually. However, I am rarely completely sure of the combination in certain kinds of tactics. I get lost in visualization and calculation after 4 or so moves when trying to solve a 1400-1900 tactic. It's kind of annoying as it decreses my confidence levels in risky tactics such as sacrifices, and also often gets me into time pressure as I spend more time attempting to calculate good moves. I think this has to do with my "chess personality" which is "prodigy". They say that people who are prodigies tend to be very instinctual. This can be a good thing in finding candidate moves I suppose... But I certainly do not like the fact that my calculation/visualization skills are low. So I was wondering If any of you have a solution to this puzzling problem?  

 

Thanks in advance.


 

There are two things in chess that matter most. Positional sense and calculation ability. Alekhine was a great calculator whereas Capablanca and Petrosian were positional players. In my personal experience if you want to be a good chess player positional sense trumps calculation ability. You cannot get very far with calculation alone as there is simply too much to calculate. You have to have intuition of what kind of position you are atrying to achieve. Which pieces' dominance you are trying to increase. Which squares you are fighting over. What is ok to give in trade for what else. The famous story of Richard Reti in which he was asked how many moves ahead he could think he said 'one move. the best one.'

hisokaxhunter

let's math involved in opening, middlegame and endgame. evaluate using math

KingSideInvasion
DaddyReza wrote:

Do push ups. This will help you visualize better. 

Thanks, best advice on this thread.

lol.

KingSideInvasion
pdve wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

I have a problem with tactics and overall chess moves... I tend to find candidate moves instinctually within 5-10 seconds, and the first one I think of actually tends to be the correct move. I always have the general idea in my head as it pops up instinctually. However, I am rarely completely sure of the combination in certain kinds of tactics. I get lost in visualization and calculation after 4 or so moves when trying to solve a 1400-1900 tactic. It's kind of annoying as it decreses my confidence levels in risky tactics such as sacrifices, and also often gets me into time pressure as I spend more time attempting to calculate good moves. I think this has to do with my "chess personality" which is "prodigy". They say that people who are prodigies tend to be very instinctual. This can be a good thing in finding candidate moves I suppose... But I certainly do not like the fact that my calculation/visualization skills are low. So I was wondering If any of you have a solution to this puzzling problem?  

 

Thanks in advance.


 

There are two things in chess that matter most. Positional sense and calculation ability. Alekhine was a great calculator whereas Capablanca and Petrosian were positional players. In my personal experience if you want to be a good chess player positional sense trumps calculation ability. You cannot get very far with calculation alone as there is simply too much to calculate. You have to have intuition of what kind of position you are atrying to achieve. Which pieces' dominance you are trying to increase. Which squares you are fighting over. What is ok to give in trade for what else. The famous story of Richard Reti in which he was asked how many moves ahead he could think he said 'one move. the best one.'

Thanks, but I believe that calculation can also be crucial in highly tactical battles.

CrnlKurtz

And then some juming jacks grin.png

CrnlKurtz

It is a problem for some people because of the way the brain neural net has a different structure for everyone and we, as humans, develop a certain set of skills faster and better than others therefore the chess game has as many pov's as humans are alive, hence the beauty of this beautiful game called chess!

AxiomaticDelphic

Try the vision trainer tool!

Prometheus_Fuschs

Play a few daily chess and remember the position in your head.