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contrapunctus

Usually 'gg' is said after a game, bad or good. But as a polite way of telling people to resign I say 'gg' when the opponent is in a hopelessly lost position and will not resign (sometimes in a feeble effort to win on time even when I have more time than them), so I wouldn't say gg if there is still play left. Of course some people do resign, but I beat someone today who after the game, accused me of being rude. I always thought of it as a reasonably subtle gesture compared to "RESIGN NOW!" but it seems to play with some people's minds.

moopster

i do think that they are right, it is terribly rude.  It is as if saying "I am so clearly better than you that I can declare this game over right now!"

0ort

As annoying as it can be playing out won positions I tend to think it isn't that bad. Subtle hints can easily be taken the wrong way and the person probably has reasons for not resigning, whatever they may be. I'll often play out a losing position (although not a completely lost position) as practice for how to defend in timed games. What really amazes me however is when people offer draws in bad or hopeless positions.

DMX21x1

Depends who you are playing.  As long as my opponent stays within the rules set out I don't bother with such things.  If he/she want's to see the game to its conclusion I couldn't care less. 

On another note, GG always annoys me, its just lazy.  I want to see the words GOOD GAME.  If you can't be arsed typing it out I'm not convinced that you mean it.  Tongue out 

Conflagration_Planet

Don't tell somebody to resign. If they want to resign, they will.

contrapunctus

Ok I think I stand corrected then

Last_Sire03

lol look all these guys dissing u.u know i never did think about it before but i sometimes said gg before the game was over i didnt realize that it was offensive to some people...i learned a valuable lesson today:)

polydiatonic
DMX21x1 wrote:

Depends who you are playing.  As long as my opponent stays within the rules set out I don't bother with such things.  If he/she want's to see the game to its conclusion I couldn't care less. 

On another note, GG always annoys me, its just lazy.  I want to see the words GOOD GAME.  If you can't be arsed typing it out I'm not convinced that you mean it.   


lol, 2bd u Cry gg. 4me ggCool

polydiatonic
contrapunctus wrote:

Usually 'gg' is said after a game, bad or good. But as a polite way of telling people to resign I say 'gg' when the opponent is in a hopelessly lost position and will not resign, so I wouldn't say gg if there is still play left. Of course some people do resign, but I beat someone today who after the game, accused me of being rude. I always thought of it as a reasonably subtle gesture compared to "RESIGN NOW!" but it seems to play with some people's minds.


saying "gg" while a game is still in progress is really an act of overt hubris.  That's rude, and extremely so, by definition.  That said I have to admit that I've done it myself.  I usually was actually, I hate to admit it, in a foul mood for some reason and was just being a jerk.  Usually it's the usual situation, I'm sitting there up 2 pieces in an endgame wondering why my dopey opponent is still pushing wood, waiting for me to promote a pawn an deliver a back rank mate....  However I got my comeupance a while back.  I was litteraly a queen and rook up  against a King and a couple of pawns and I manged to stalemate the guy while yellinng "GG" at him.  Tongue out

Kernicterus

yeah, this is naughty.  The person already knows they have the right to resign...don't you think so? 

One opponent yesterday said "I know it's over but can we still play on"...I wanted to say "bless your heart, you don't even have to ask that".  On the other hand, I'm in a game right now where I am up a rook plus 2 minor pieces and I don't know how many pawns...and his blunders were just...like...eerily suicidal.  Yet, he plays on.  I want to say "are you smoking crack?" but I just keep it in my head. 

podge52
AfafBouardi wrote:

  I want to say "are you smoking crack?" but I just keep it in my head. 


Ahh now I understand Kiss

joshgregory7

sometimes i will just outright ask people to resign.  one time i said "I would appreciate your resignation, but I have no problem with continuing our game."  (i did have a problem continuing the game)  that was during turn based (3 day per move) chess so i wasnt gonna blunder away an insanely easy win.(queen plus some minors plus pawns vs king, rook and less pawns)  i dont think that was rude because there was no magical way for him to win and we both knew that so he gracefully resigned.  the way i asked was just letting him know i dont wanna play anymore, but if he wants to keep playing he can feel free to.  do you guys still think thats rude?

artfizz
joshgregory7 wrote: ... one time i said "I would appreciate your resignation, but I have no problem with continuing our game."  ...

I think this type of formulation is perfectly acceptable in corporate management or politics if you are the CEO and you're going to fire the person anyway.

RealSelf
artfizz wrote:
joshgregory7 wrote: ... one time i said "I would appreciate your resignation, but I have no problem with continuing our game."  ...

I think this type of formulation is perfectly acceptable in corporate management or politics if you are the CEO and you're going to fire the person anyway.


Might not work so well with my 10 year old nephew Cry

jpd303

as much as i would like to ask my opponent to resign sometimes, i refrain from doing so on the basis that i wouldnt really want my opponent to ask me to resign... however in tournament play i think it might be necessary for one to ask the TD to assess a position and force resignation in certain circumstances just for the sake of moving the tournament along in a timely manner. for instance a lone king vs a king and rook, at 3 days/move and the mate might take say 20 moves = 2 months of pointlessness (if thats a word...) ... in general though, i think its bad manners to ask for resignation

Puchiko

jpd: In a say, 1600-1800 tourney I would definitely agree. In a <1000 the chance of stalemate is ernomous, and it would be unfair to cheat the lone king player of his half point.

Ethics isn't the biggest issue if we're talking about chess.com turnbased though. Arbitration of positions must be done by a human, and a very skilled one at that, at least a CM/NM. And chess.com has no reason to invest all this money just to speed up tourneys, it's better spent elsewhere.

ReedRichards

Nothing in the rules say you have to resign...the rule says, and I quote, "if you think my position is hopeless, prove it"...remember- we are playing humans not computers.

I played this guy a couple of weeks ago...he made a bishop sacrifice to attack my king only supported by his queen, with his other pieces unable to support...then he writes- "resign now the end is near". I evaulated the position and thought he was crazy...I wrote back "don't count your eggs before they are hatched"...and proceeded to recover and eventually win.

...so while you may feel that you are "clearly" in a winning position...remember that's only your opinion...

...and to have someone officiate too force a submission is garbage...because it assumes that even if you have a winnerable position...that you will play the winning moves...which can only pe proved by playing out the game.

jaf299

I have been in this position a few times, with a completly won position. As I don't have many games going on at the one time I simply start a new game. As has already been said, the opponent has every right to play on while he has legal moves he can make. 

ilikeflags

i find it less rude that dragging a lost game out.  i do the same thing--sometimes.

chessoholicalien

A guy told me to resign a game recently.

I replied that it was not his place to tell me when to resign. I will resign when I am ready.

The game was certainly lost, but to confound his rudeness, I decided to play a long, drawn-out endgame and waste his time.