Given your IQ, what's the highest Chess rating you can realistically attain?

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slvnfernando

I think A good IQ is only one of the many skills necessary to excel in Chess, the sameway an Ace Soccer player has to have a good physique. But the physique alone cannot make you a good soccer player. You need something else. The Artistic side of it!

Murrrrr

Internet IQ tests are for stupid people who think 20 questions will tell how smart they are. The real IQ test takes hours... some may take even days. But IQ is just a number. It may tell how smart you are, but smart is something you don't always need in chess. A guy who has no creativity but an IQ of 180 could lose to a guy who is creative and resourceful enough and has a lower IQ.

IQ is just another way to label us. To put us on neat little categories and judge us by that.

eXecute

I also think the validity of most IQ tests is as genuine and accurate as a bat flying a 747.

It's ridiculous, the kind of questions they ask, "True or False: there are 30 letters in this sentence.", so you count it, and then you say false. Perhaps a gifted person, takes some guesses and instead of counting estimates the letters in each word, and perhaps a genius person, already knows all the counts to the words and just adds them up.

Either way, all that proves is someone knows too much about counting words, not that they are better at solving an engineering problem or a chess puzzle.

And sure many of these online quizzes have only 40 questions. And real IQ tests may be conducted for hours-----but then you're testing brain stamina not brain power.

Murrrrr

Well I don't think you can say anything about a person's smart with 40 questions... or 100 for that matter. It's just something supposedly smart people have come up to show how smart they are. As I said before, it's just another way to label people.

Quod

This reminds me of intelligences vs. experiences.

Murrrrr
rich wrote:

I read George Bush had a IQ of 89!


Monkies choose the stupidest monkey to lead them.... it's that simple

Elubas

What's so bad about IQ tests? Obviously they don't measure every kind of intelligence, that would be impossible. It just seems to test your logical thinking, even though the situations in IQ tests probably won't be like in real life.

Conflagration_Planet

I met sombody in Mensa once, and I wasn't impressed in the least.

TheGrobe

The formula is:

(IQ x 20) - 800

This can be confirmed by the following:

Bobby Fischer's IQ was purportedly 180.

(180 x 20) - 800 = 2800

The average IQ is 100 (by definition):

(100 x 20) - 800 = 1200

Which is why it's the starting rating here at chess.com and as a result, also the average rating here.

eXecute

Formula is incorrect, Bobby's supposed IQ was 187, therefore, he should have had a 2940 rating. Plus he was a racist and loved Hitler, so that shows some logical connections in his brain were pretty horrible.

There's no relation.

Bobby Fischer probably didn't even have that high of an IQ, he simply worked like a dog (as he put it himself about his opponents). He was also autistic and couldn't do well in anything other than chess.

Conflagration_Planet
TheGrobe wrote:

The formula is:

(IQ x 20) - 800

This can be confirmed by the following:

Bobby Fischer's IQ was purportedly 180.

(180 x 20) - 800 = 2800

The average IQ is 100 (by definition):

(100 x 20) - 800 = 1200

Which is why it's the starting rating here at chess.com and as a result, also the average rating

Are you saying that the average person never rises above 1200? Doesn't make any sense. NONE. 

TheGrobe

Sorry, the formula doesn't lie.  Hopefully this will put an end to the questions.

Conflagration_Planet

Whoever came up with it didn't know what they were talking about. The average person could easily get above 1200 after studying for a few months.

nuclearturkey

But if the formula can fail, then I don't know what to believe in anymore...

TheGrobe

Well, that would be an indication that they're above average, no?

Conflagration_Planet
TheGrobe wrote:

Well, that would be an indication that they're above average, no?


No. My statement was: The average player could improve to above 1200 after studying for a few months.  I meant somebody with an IQ of 100.

TheGrobe

I don't know -- let me check the formula....

orangehonda

From learning the rules to 1200 in a few months?  If we're talking chess.com 1200 then I might agree.  Otherwise you'd need a coach or be a natural talent.

Also, I'm happy that formula is about as perfect as any will be Grobe, we can finally put this issue to bed.

Eo____
AnthonyCG wrote:

LOL.

People think that chess actually makes you smarter.


But, like any other intellectual activity, playing chess diminishes the rate at which the brain atrophies.

Eo____
TheGrobe wrote:

The formula is:

(IQ x 20) - 800

This can be confirmed by the following:

Bobby Fischer's IQ was purportedly 180.

(180 x 20) - 800 = 2800

The average IQ is 100 (by definition):

(100 x 20) - 800 = 1200

Which is why it's the starting rating here at chess.com and as a result, also the average rating here.


According to that formula my iq is 115. One standard deviation away from greatness :)