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GM-s per capita worldwide, 1. Iceland !

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prusswan
prusswan
Feb 2, 2017
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#21

Icelandic people must have very carefree lives to devote so much time to chess

urk
urk
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Feb 2, 2017
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#22
A very high standard of living and long winters makes for a good chess environment.
Heck, a good proportion of Icelanders personally know a GM.
watcha
watcha
Feb 4, 2017
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#23

Scotland indeed has a high number of GMs per capita. Roughly 1 ppm, which would have put it on the list around 30th place. As much as I admire Scotland, with regret I have to put forward that Scotland is not an independent country.

Here is why:

http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/scotlandnot.htm

cap78red
cap78red
Nov 18, 2017
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#24
  country average rating GM-s IM-s total titled population GM-s per capita ppm
1 Iceland 2521 12 13 52 325010 36,92
2 Monaco 2235 1 1 10 36136 27,67
3 Andorra 2286 2 1 7 76246 26,23
4 Armenia 2659 36 23 98 3024100 11,90
5 Montenegro 2453 6 15 61 620029 9,68
6 Serbia 2583 53 108 562 7181505 7,38
7 Croatia 2581 31 61 243 4290612 7,23
8 Slovenia 2554 13 21 101 2061149 6,31
9 Latvia 2521 12 11 52 2014000 5,96
10 Georgia 2592 26 38 115 4483800 5,80
11 Hungary 2653 52 111 428 9906000 5,25
12 Israel 2631 39 49 161 8081000 4,83
13 Bulgaria 2612 35 55 138 7282041 4,81
14 Macedonia 2471 9 10 47 2062294 4,36
15 Estonia 2460 5 12 41 1286540 3,89
16 Lithuania 2476 9 15 52 2950684 3,05
17 Czech Republic 2579 30 74 272 10512900 2,85
18 Azerbaijan 2614 20 21 86 9235100 2,17
19 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2509 8 25 91 3839737 2,08
20 Sweden 2537 19 36 141 9616429 1,98
21 Norway 2554 10 29 104 5077798 1,97
22 Denmark 2533 11 34 119 5608784 1,96
23 Cuba 2589 21 43 288 11163934 1,88
24 Slovakia 2509 10 27 103 5410728 1,85
25 Belarus 2571 17 25 94 9464400 1,80
26 Netherlands 2639 30 79 297 16803500 1,79
27 Ukraine 2704 81 196 502 45469812 1,78
28 Moldova 2489 6 23 66 3559500 1,69
29 Qatar 2068 3 1 11 1864817 1,61
30 Russia 2740 220 502 2216 143500000 1,53
31 Mongolia 2416 4 7 48 2754685 1,45
32 Greece 2551 12 23 109 10815197 1,11
33 Romania 2582 21 82 273 20121641 1,04
34 Scotland ? 5 ? ? 5100100 0.99
35 Germany 2622 80 236 1216 80523700 0,99
36 Switzerland 2507 8 35 133 8085300 0,99
37 Poland 2628 38 99 339 38533299 0,99
38 Spain 2598 43 108 502 46704314 0,92
39 Finland 2439 5 20 109 5442322 0,92
40 Kazakhstan 2497 15 28 124 17076000 0,88
41 Austria 2497 7 46 210 8464554 0,83
42 Turkmenistan 2374 4 8 45 5240000 0,76
43 France 2663 47 100 371 65776000 0,71
44 Paraguay 2356 4 3 23 6600284 0,61
45 Singapore 2329 3 13 61 5399200 0,56
46 England 2623 35 56 249 63705000 0,55
47 Argentina 2538 20 72 246 40117096 0,50
48 Uzbekistan 2526 11 10 51 30183400 0,36
49 Belgium 2488 4 20 86 11162121 0,36
50 Albania 2323 1 6 18 2821977 0,35
51 Wales ? 1 ? ? 3100000 0.31
52 Uruguay 2297 1 4 29 3286314 0,30
53 Canada 2511 10 34 147 35158304 0,28
54 Portugal 2410 3 13 40 10562178 0,28
55 United States of America 2653 79 123 613 316889000 0,25
56 United Arab Emirates 2305 2 5 40 8264070 0,24
57 Chile 2468 4 11 61 16634603 0,24
58 New Zealand 2308 1 6 37 4476800 0,22
59 Ireland 2386 1 7 28 4585400 0,22
60 Peru 2513 6 11 58 30475144 0,20
61 Tunisia 2311 2 4 23 10777500 0,19
62 Kyrgyzstan 2286 1 5 12 5551900 0,18
63 Australia 2443 4 25 110 23219582 0,17
64 Italy 2562 10 41 201 59772978 0,17
65 Philippines 2544 15 24 76 98522000 0,15
66 Tajikistan 2271 1 4 7 8000000 0,13
67 Iran 2494 9 12 70 76987000 0,12
68 Dominican Republic 2323 1 6 24 9445281 0,11
69 Turkey 2534 8 18 79 75627384 0,11
70 Bolivia 2246 1 2 23 10027254 0,10
71 Colombia 2438 4 31 111 47283000 0,08
72 Vietnam 2499 7 12 106 88780000 0,08
73 Brazil 2545 11 29 172 201032714 0,05
74 Mexico 2450 5 27 152 118395054 0,04
75 Egypt 2471 3 27 56 83661000 0,04
76 Venezuela 2418 1 18 56 28946101 0,03
77 Bangladesh 2401 5 3 31 152518015 0,03
78 India 2644 34 76 230 1235320000 0,03
79 Algeria 2319 1 10 36 37900000 0,03
80 Indonesia 2420 6 14 80 237641326 0,03
81 China 2671 34 25 127 1360570000 0,02
82 South Korea 2084 1 1 12 50219669 0,02

 

this is updated list and England is in wrong place note it adds nations Scotland and wales

 

cap78red
cap78red
Nov 18, 2017
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#25

England is in wrong place because English population is that for entire britain

 

Tja_05
Tja_05
Nov 19, 2017
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#26

zborg wrote:

"Research" with dozens of errors.  Great thinking Brainiac.  Much indebted.  

Wow, Sherlock, great thinking. Much indebted. (Elementary, my dear Watson.)

watcha
watcha
Nov 26, 2017
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#27
cap78red wrote:

England is in wrong place because English population is that for entire britain

 

 

Wow. It is good to see that someone finally took the pains to independently check my data and update it.

universityofpawns
universityofpawns
Closed: Inactive
Nov 26, 2017
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#28

Nice post! I found this map of it too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/5frfcu/world_map_of_chess_grandmasters_per_capita/

 

watcha
watcha
Nov 26, 2017
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#29
universityofpawns wrote:

Nice post! I found this map of it too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/5frfcu/world_map_of_chess_grandmasters_per_capita/

 

 

It is a shame I was not at the technical level at the time to present my data as a graph like this ( also it did not occur to me to be honest ).

 

Nevertheless I like this post from the discussion of the graph:

 

Saying Andorra has 1.4 GMs per 100 000 citizens is like saying the Vatican has more than 2 popes per square mile. Technically correct.

dzho
dzho
Dec 29, 2018
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#30

Interesting stuff...

Wonder what the updated stats look like. India has around 55+ GM's now. Many new GM's since the updated statistics post in 2017, including Nihal Sarin and Praggnanandhaa Rameshbabu.

badenwurtca
badenwurtca
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Dec 29, 2018
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#31

Very interesting thread.

ed1975
ed1975
Dec 30, 2018
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#32

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/icelandic-chess

 

EwanCT
EwanCT
Mar 26, 2021
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#33
watcha wrote:

Sorry if I have made mistakes but I have compiled the list by hand ( from two sources: the FIDE list of countries by strength http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml and the Wikipedia list of country populations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population ). I had to exclude some countries since for example FIDE believes that Scotland is a country while Wikipedia lists no such country.

So you included England but not Scotland?

PRWoodpusher
PRWoodpusher
Closed: Inactive
Mar 26, 2021
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#34

Are the Iceland numbers partially due to Bobby moving there, and or the match he played  there?

SARXUS
SARXUS
May 29, 2022
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#35
RomyGer escribió:

Apart from clear mistakes, I see more "problems", as e.g. Groenland-Denmark, Spain-Catalonia-Galicia-Grenada, and what about England-UK-Scotland-Wales-Ireland-Guernsey-Gibraltar-Jersey-IsleOfMan... and the small ones as Vatican, Monaco, Lichtenstein have to be counted in a separate section, like the big ones, China, India etc.

But when we select in a correct way, yes, the great lines can be seen, in another forum here on Chess.Com someone mentioned the former Yugoslav countries and the former USSR countries, each with now a lot of fine chess players !!  And on the other hand, we see countries or regio's that have to be helped, like our Max Euwe once tried to do  ! 

Why wouldn't you count Galicia and Catalonia as a part of Spain? But, more importantly, why would you count Grenada as a country when it's not even an autonomous region?