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petrip wrote:

At the beginning it is more important to get feel of the game thatn anlyze hard. So on fullo board 20+20 with 30 sec Byo-yomi should be fine.

On 13x13 10-15 minutes.

Longer times are not popular in internet and they make sense only after you practice a little bit aand can do some tactical analysis. Life&Death (tsume-go) is the next big thing after you have played some games.

Cool, thx!

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@Griffin

I feel bad playing you in Go but not chess, where we can both teach each other. Can we play another game of chess again?

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Vulpes Vulpes, did you see the review that I sent you?

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DORAEMONCHESS wrote:

Vulpes Vulpes, did you see the review that I sent you?

yes I did

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VULPES_VULPES wrote:
DORAEMONCHESS wrote:

Vulpes Vulpes, did you see the review that I sent you?

yes I did

How do you think of it? I know, some parts still need fixing

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To all people in this chess server:

Play 100 of your games fast,not slow. It's better to get a feel of the game first.

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You're right. That's the best way to improve

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DORAEMONCHESS wrote:

You're right. That's the best way to improve

to play fast? really?

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No, Play fast enough for you to get some thoughts in. That way, when the better players give you a review, you'll learn, and you will remember that and get better

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petrip wrote:
VULPES_VULPES wrote:
DORAEMONCHESS wrote:

You're right. That's the best way to improve

to play fast? really?

Well reasonably fast. If you can work out tactical why not thik about it. But on strategic level thinking will not hel you untill you gain some building blocks  for your thinking process.  In almost any middlegame position there are at least 20-20 viable optoins and analyzing them when you have no tools for analysis  will not lead anywhere

 

. And playing some games quickly is one way to do it

That is very correct. It's what I do sometimes

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DORAEMONCHESS asserted:

I predict the chess pieces will have no place to go to, since they're all surrounded. The surrounding will happen in the cneter.

The knight can jump.

Chess wins again.

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I'm very attracted to the game of Go.  Very beautiful and deep.  But it's even harder than chess.  I feel like I "swam accross the Gulf of Mexico" to achieve my moderate level of chess skill.  Attaining an equivalent performance level at Go would be like swimming accross the Pacific Ocean.

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I have played both Chess and Go. I think Go is a great game, very rich in strategy and tactics.  And not so dominated by opening theory as chess is these days.  I was very into it for a brief period.  I do think chess players have a big advantage in learning Go, because they already have a lot of the mental tools needed to play well.  I got to 3 kyu on KGS relatively quickly, although then it started to get much harder to improve my rank.

For me, however, I have limited time for board games right now and I am much better at chess.  So I have chosen to stick with chess, but I would like to play some more Go in the future when I have the time.

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ghostofmaroczy wrote:
DORAEMONCHESS asserted:

I predict the chess pieces will have no place to go to, since they're all surrounded. The surrounding will happen in the cneter.

The knight can jump.

Chess wins again.

Eh? But go have all the territory surrounded so if the knight moves in to the territory, it's suicide, anyway

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Chess and Go are very different.

How many different concepts are needed to be learnt to play each to an expert level?

In Chess if one player knows a few techniques that the other doesn't it might not affect the outcome of the game, in Go if one player knowssome techniqus the other doesn't the are going to use them to beat the other player into the ground.

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Murgen wrote:

Chess and Go are very different.

How many different concepts are needed to be learnt to play each to an expert level?

In Chess if one player knows a few techniques that the other doesn't it might not affect the outcome of the game, in Go if one player knowssome techniqus the other doesn't the are going to use them to beat the other player into the ground.

Very True

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Murgen escribió:

Chess and Go are very different.

How many different concepts are needed to be learnt to play each to an expert level?

In Chess if one player knows a few techniques that the other doesn't it might not affect the outcome of the game, in Go if one player knowssome techniqus the other doesn't the are going to use them to beat the other player into the ground.

yep, Go has a grat part of "knowledge of the game", thats why, when we teach someone, we always teach some basic techniques like ladder, geta and others tesujis ike those, simple to learn and teach, but so powerfull when well played ;)

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ArcadesGriffith wrote:
Murgen escribió:

Chess and Go are very different.

How many different concepts are needed to be learnt to play each to an expert level?

In Chess if one player knows a few techniques that the other doesn't it might not affect the outcome of the game, in Go if one player knowssome techniqus the other doesn't the are going to use them to beat the other player into the ground.

yep, Go has a grat part of "knowledge of the game", thats why, when we teach someone, we always teach some basic techniques like ladder, geta and others tesujis ike those, simple to learn and teach, but so powerfull when well played ;)

You're right, they're very powerful when well played

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petrip wrote:
DORAEMONCHESS wrote:
ArcadesGriffith wrote:
Murgen escribió:

Chess and Go are very different.

How many different concepts are needed to be learnt to play each to an expert level?

In Chess if one player knows a few techniques that the other doesn't it might not affect the outcome of the game, in Go if one player knowssome techniqus the other doesn't the are going to use them to beat the other player into the ground.

yep, Go has a grat part of "knowledge of the game", thats why, when we teach someone, we always teach some basic techniques like ladder, geta and others tesujis ike those, simple to learn and teach, but so powerfull when well played ;)

You're right, they're very powerful when well played

just like pin, fork, skewer, x-ray defence etc...

 

utilizing thicknesa and such concepts are unique ans hard to learn properly. They are easily explained

Thickness, I feel, can be quite easy to learn and equip in play.

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its go because........................... I dont know😧