Do you understand how vacation works? You go on vacation for all your games. So while your opponent is on vacation in the game he is losing with you, he is also on vacation in the game he is winning with someone else. You don't get to pick which games you are on vacation with.
Has Chess.com ever had a worse idea than Vacations?
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AlCzervik wrote:
Royalbishops mouth will never go on vacation.
How many teams are you Admin of here? 0
I am an Admin of several that i can not keep track of here. I have had many players come to me on several issues to resolve. Plus i am always looking for players for various activities in a group and every where on this site i can to find a specific type of member.
Plus i share my experience as players that are farely new are looking for all the info they get on a subject.
@ AlCzervik So far your contribution to this thread is your leading with an insult. Great job friend.
"" Player A using Vacation in a tournament affects Player B's ability to win the tournament "
Before you open your mout you should check the previous comments and not leave comments just to comment. Think first then comment second. I already left my experience in a tournament where it happended. And the case i left could happen to anybody. But at the same time if you take my case in reverse it could help a player win the tournament. It depends on when the vacation was taken related to that player."
No. I read your post. My whole point was aimed at your post. I am claiming that your post is full of nonsense if you think that your ability to play at a high level was affected by other people taking vacation. I repeat: I read your post and am claiming it is complete nonsense. I do not believe in the concept of hot streaks and cold streaks, and his taking longer than you expected does not give you any less time to decide your move. Excuses, excuses.
"What? any amount of Vacation use resets your clock
: Who mentioned amount of. And again your not checking details at all. I mention that as Paying Member. As a paying member is the only time you can get auto vacation. Keep up. I also said if i went into specifically how it was done when i did it what would happen. These same abusers would do it and everybody would get angry at me for helping them out. And if it is just something that just happens to me then nobody has anything to worry about in both case. 1st they will not see it happen from their opponents and i have no intent on taking advantage of it."
My claim is that there is no documented instance of ANYONE who used vacation having their clock RESET. NOT A SINGLE DOCUMENTED INSTANCE. I'm not making any claims about premium/non-premium, or anything else. If you want to have me respond whatsoever to the claim that Vacations allow abuse because they reset your clock, then prove it. Show me a single incident. I will repeat (again): I am a premium member. I have used vacation both with and without the Auto-Protection, and never has my vacation use reset.
HAYDENFANXOX wrote:
yessssssssssss and when you winning they go on Vacations always !!!!!!!
I agree but that is such a small percentage that win by abusing vacation that way.
royalbishop wrote:
HAYDENFANXOX wrote:
yessssssssssss and when you winning they go on Vacations always !!!!!!!
I agree but that is such a small percentage that win by abusing vacation that way.
Ok. Troll. I won't need to pay attention to any more of your posts.
As to Mathbandits point that vacation usage does not win tournaments...he is, of course, correct. I would think it obvious but I suppose it bears repeating.
Ok Ubik42
Here is perfect example since you live in the US you have know this. I assume you watch sports. Better lets us take the recent Super Bowl. The Ravens were crushing the 49ers the game was over by half time. Remember how the 2nd half started and the Ravens came out and got a Touchdown and the power went out shortly.
It changed that game as the Ravens were in a rhythm. I play in a sports league and i am not proud of it but i look to change the timing of the game and have beaten several opponents by making my team mates change the tempo of the game if my opponent is playing good. And i have to say it has worked 80% of the time across 5 years All year around from one league to another.
I know you going to say it does not relate to chess. Well i am going to have to go and type me experience as you did not take time to read it in previos comments. I was Red Hot in this tournament on Chess.com. Mainly do to 3 months of hard practice previos to it or that is what i think it was here. I crushed all my opponents in 1st round without much thought. Now i think it was the 2nd round or 3rd round where a player in another group took a vacation that must have lasted 2-3 months. At that time i came back to earth which happens to anybody that is playing stronger than they expected to play. When he came back and his games finished i could not find the mojo. I was still making good moves but i felt like i was missing the best move of the good moves. I went and reviewed those games as i had them written down and with notes on the game. Still not coming back. I still went on to the final round without no problem. Ok your saying about now what is my problem and i made it to the final round with ease. Well the 2 players decided to get me out early not sure they if they worked together but they both used the exact same strategy against me. Every move was full of traps, tactical and heavy positional play that needed some serious theory. Well enough of that. The one guy did not lose a game in the final round and had a worse record than some players eliminated. He got me on move where it looked like i might end the game or win the material this was after several of these types of attempts and sooner or later i was going to fall for it or worse ignore the oppurtunities.
I figure if that vacation was not so long i would have beaten that guy in when i was playing Red Hot. Well i managed to get it back as i figured i was not going to win 1st place and not going to fall to 3rd as i had better record than both of them in that tournament easily. I manged to play a little bit better and forget about how i struggled to get back to how i was playing as that only comes once in a blue moon. And i managed to win 2nd place.
Ubik42 wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
HAYDENFANXOX wrote:
yessssssssssss and when you winning they go on Vacations always !!!!!!!
I agree but that is such a small percentage that win by abusing vacation that way.
Ok. Troll. I won't need to pay attention to any more of your posts.
Are you serious? Calling me a troll.
I have been called worse in my first 3 games at chess.com here. They attaked my race, country, choice of openings and etc. Told me how they are going to whip me up and down the board and they will be a GM while i remain at the same level.
Gotta do better man. Rookie move.
MathBandit wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:
I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.
If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.
That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.
Happened to my opponent Scott. Repeated times.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
never once making a move.
Until I finally got ticked off, and rage-posted this thread.
I frankly don't believe you that 13 days of Vacation became 45 days of real-time (or whatever numbers you're claiming). Yesterday you wrote that "he finally ran out of vacation days, and just resigned", when really you apparently meant to say that he resigned 4 days prior. That game 4 days prior also did not even last 2 months, and so it seems unlikely that you and your opponent blitzed through the whole game in a week, and then your opponent decided to burn through all his 2 weeks of vacation when it served literally no purpose.
Finally, your whole premise for this thread is that you can only join 1 tournament at a time and all of this 'vacation abuse' is delaying that tournament unreasonable. I have argued logically that even adding 2-3 months of Vacation time will not significantly increase the round of a tournament, and you did not respond at all to that post. Furthermore, this 'vacation abuse' in particular that you are harping about was not remotely close to delaying the tournament, as there are many games yet to finish in the Round.
I already copy/pased and showed you where they denied me a second tournament. You can check again on page 3 of this forum. I am not making this up.
also, adding 2-3 months is not unreasonable. Having tha ablitlity to stretch those 2-3 months of vacation time via a bug, over 8-12 months, without making a single move, is HIGHLY unreasonable.
(You keep walking into that one. Wouldn't you notice a pattern?)
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varelse1 wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:
I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.
If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.
That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.
Happened to my opponent Scott. Repeated times.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
never once making a move.
Until I finally got ticked off, and rage-posted this thread.
I frankly don't believe you that 13 days of Vacation became 45 days of real-time (or whatever numbers you're claiming). Yesterday you wrote that "he finally ran out of vacation days, and just resigned", when really you apparently meant to say that he resigned 4 days prior. That game 4 days prior also did not even last 2 months, and so it seems unlikely that you and your opponent blitzed through the whole game in a week, and then your opponent decided to burn through all his 2 weeks of vacation when it served literally no purpose.
Finally, your whole premise for this thread is that you can only join 1 tournament at a time and all of this 'vacation abuse' is delaying that tournament unreasonable. I have argued logically that even adding 2-3 months of Vacation time will not significantly increase the round of a tournament, and you did not respond at all to that post. Furthermore, this 'vacation abuse' in particular that you are harping about was not remotely close to delaying the tournament, as there are many games yet to finish in the Round.
I already copy/pased and showed you where they denied me a second tournament. You can check again on page 3 of this forum. I am not making this up.
also, adding 2-3 months is not unreasonable. Having tha ablitlity to stretch those 2-3 months of vacation time via a bug, over 8-12 months, without making a single move, is HIGHLY unreasonable.
(You keep walking into that one. Wouldn't you notice a pattern?)
I don't "walk into that one", I deny that such a point is valid. Until someone shows me that using vacation can fully reset your clock, I continue to assume that no such thing happens.
As to the first point, I know you have been denied access to a second tournament. But you claim that this tournament is being dragged on longer than you could have anticipated due to this 'vacation abuse', but even with that game completely over the round is far from finished. So your game was not holding up the tournament at all.
@MathBandit
I already went over about proving it. Or maybe you want to use it to make others suffer. Which is my biggest reason for not lifting one finger to prove it.
Again i said it happened when i had a paying membership not a non paying membership.
I also said it me just isolated to just me In which case it is a bug i only have here. And the screenshot. ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION. I do not have paying membership. Get the wax out your ears. So i if i did want to be helful in that way i have to get a paying membership. Now if you wish to give me a paying membership for a month ok i will gladly present a screen shot but not here but to chess.com. In which case you glady take the money back spent and use it to your account.
Plus somebody would have to suffer to prove it. I do not like that idea of doing that just to satisfy your curosity.
If you do not believe me then move on. I know what happened. If you do believe ok, we can still move on. No big issue here as it could never be a frequent problem as the person would lose their vacation privelage. That simple.
Only this time. Because my opponent ran ourt of vacation time, or just gave up to troll somebody else.
But this bug has many possible simple fixes, which have suggested on this forum alone, which will not in any way inconvenience the honest (majority) pawn pushers of chess.com, who use their vacation time legitimatly, without abusing it.
varelse1 wrote:
MathBandit wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:
I can't say I have noticed the clock reset as I have been fortunate enough to not come across too many players who ever use vacation time. The few who have were doing so reasonably, in my opinion, so there was no need for me to bother taking note.
If this is the case, it is definitely a design flaw. Use 1 day of vacation and, in return, receive 3, 5, 7, 14 additional days to make your move. Madness.
That doesn't happen, you get the proportion of 24 hours that you don't use added to your clock, since it deducts full days only.
Happened to my opponent Scott. Repeated times.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
Auto-vacation 24 hours. Reset 3 days.
never once making a move.
Until I finally got ticked off, and rage-posted this thread.
I frankly don't believe you that 13 days of Vacation became 45 days of real-time (or whatever numbers you're claiming). Yesterday you wrote that "he finally ran out of vacation days, and just resigned", when really you apparently meant to say that he resigned 4 days prior. That game 4 days prior also did not even last 2 months, and so it seems unlikely that you and your opponent blitzed through the whole game in a week, and then your opponent decided to burn through all his 2 weeks of vacation when it served literally no purpose.
Finally, your whole premise for this thread is that you can only join 1 tournament at a time and all of this 'vacation abuse' is delaying that tournament unreasonable. I have argued logically that even adding 2-3 months of Vacation time will not significantly increase the round of a tournament, and you did not respond at all to that post. Furthermore, this 'vacation abuse' in particular that you are harping about was not remotely close to delaying the tournament, as there are many games yet to finish in the Round.
I already copy/pased and showed you where they denied me a second tournament. You can check again on page 3 of this forum. I am not making this up.
also, adding 2-3 months is not unreasonable. Having tha ablitlity to stretch those 2-3 months of vacation time via a bug, over 8-12 months, without making a single move, is HIGHLY unreasonable.
(You keep walking into that one. Wouldn't you notice a pattern?)
We had this big issue over Vacation a litlle over a year ago. The result was that the majority of the Vacations would be No Vacation tournaments. And it worked for while. This is the first time i have heard of a Vacation problem in a tournament.
This must be a result of new players joining the site. Plus that some of the TD may be new to creating tournaments.
royalbishop wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
Royalbishops mouth will never go on vacation.
How many teams are you Admin of here? 0 By choice. Anyone can start groups and spam for members.
I am an Admin of several that i can not keep track of here. Maybe if you spent more time with your groups instead of on the forums you could keep up. I have had many players come to me on several issues to resolve. Plus i am always looking for players for various activities in a group and every where on this site i can to find a specific type of member.
Plus i share my experience as players that are farely new are looking for all the info they get on a subject.
@ AlCzervik So far your contribution to this thread is your leading with an insult. Great job friend.
I call it like I see it, pal. Maybe you should take a vacation.
his duracells last twice as long as an average battery.
AlCzervik wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
Royalbishops mouth will never go on vacation.
How many teams are you Admin of here? 0 By choice. Anyone can start groups and spam for members.
I am an Admin of several that i can not keep track of here. Maybe if you spent more time with your groups instead of on the forums you could keep up. I have had many players come to me on several issues to resolve. Plus i am always looking for players for various activities in a group and every where on this site i can to find a specific type of member.
Plus i share my experience as players that are farely new are looking for all the info they get on a subject.
@ AlCzervik So far your contribution to this thread is your leading with an insult. Great job friend.
I call it like I see it, pal. Maybe you should take a vacation.
Yeah anybody can start a group. I will not fire back as that is childish.
But not anybody can take a team within the first year it has started and move them to page 1 on the leaderboard in Team Matches or Vote Chess. And to add with a high winning percentage.
As for members. I look for specific members that is why my teams are at the top. Groups have several activities and you have to hunt for some of those type of members to keep that actiivity going in the group.
So when it comes to groups i suggest you shhhh as by your own words your not an Admin of any group let alone a strong group. After leading off with a comment that clearly brings nothing to the table but an insult. You move to talk about subjects you have no understanding about here.
royalbishop wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
HAYDENFANXOX wrote:
yessssssssssss and when you winning they go on Vacations always !!!!!!!
I agree but that is such a small percentage that win by abusing vacation that way.
Ok. Troll. I won't need to pay attention to any more of your posts.
Are you serious? Calling me a troll.
I have been called worse in my first 3 games at chess.com here. They attaked my race, country, choice of openings and etc. Told me how they are going to whip me up and down the board and they will be a GM while i remain at the same level.
Gotta do better man. Rookie move.
Whatever. You said you can win by going on vacation while you are losing. You also won't prove, but keep asserting, the nonsense about vacation time extending your clock.
So = troll. Rookie or not.
Sunofthemorninglight wrote:
his duracells last twice as long as an average battery.
Good one!
Ubik42 wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
HAYDENFANXOX wrote:
yessssssssssss and when you winning they go on Vacations always !!!!!!!
I agree but that is such a small percentage that win by abusing vacation that way.
Ok. Troll. I won't need to pay attention to any more of your posts.
Are you serious? Calling me a troll.
I have been called worse in my first 3 games at chess.com here. They attaked my race, country, choice of openings and etc. Told me how they are going to whip me up and down the board and they will be a GM while i remain at the same level.
Gotta do better man. Rookie move.
Whatever. You said you can win by going on vacation while you are losing. You also won't prove, but keep asserting, the nonsense about vacation time extending your clock.
So = troll. Rookie or not.
There was a thread like this 3 months ago.
A player can win by going on vacation if they are losing. It is cheap. In that thread started some serious talk. As the player said he did it as he still had a chance to win. He mentioned the option that his opponent may give up, resign or time out. He also said he won some games this way.
Yeah well i wanted him to stop giving new players that like to use cheap methods win ideas. This got worse as another player was campaigning for a similar issue and it went from thread to thread that had a similar topic.
I am not here to argue. If you do not believe me then ok. We can move on. I am not going to change my view as i know what i experienced and your not going to change your view as you do not believe me.
yessssssssssss and when you winning they go on Vacations always !!!!!!!