How do we get more girls interested in Chess?

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Pink Chess pieces and fluffy board sets oughta do it 👍

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KxKmate wrote:
Judit Polgar was the closest to breaking the barrier of women in top chess, and competing for the Word Championship by being for a time in the top 10 rated players in the world. Hu Yifan was the next closest. When you consider the ratio of women to men in chess the likelihood of excellence is probably fairly similar, there are just a huge difference in proportion of men to women in the game. I don’t believe in Beth Harmon stories, but I do believe in Judit Polgar and Hu Yifan stories, and believe they marked the way for other females to follow and improve their standings in chess.

You attract females to the game when you don’t alienate them early on by acting like they will ultimately be inferior at the game but are awarded special titles just for them, special competitions just for them. You attract them by normalizing their presence in the game, and encouraging them to participate and if desired, make careers out of it. You stop treating them as an abnormal presence in the chess world and part of chess society just as in general society. Honestly women might turn chess into a better social activity and general mainstream activity in my opinion with a bigger presence. You just have to start somewhere, and that’s the hardest part of it all.

Yes, but people seem to treat the fact that there are few women at the top of chess as a problem to be solved by immediate incentives rather than to be solved in a sustainable and truly healthy manner.

Additionally, I've always thought that a lot of it came down to temperment: men are traditionally more interested in things and have a strong desire to be the best at one thing whereas women are typically more interested in people and have a desire to be good at a collection of different things. That isn't changing any time soon, and attempts to change it in the Scandinavian countries have actually increased the gender disparity in many professions.

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KxKmate skrev:
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You attract females to the game when you don’t alienate them early on by acting like they will ultimately be inferior at the game but are awarded special titles just for them, special competitions just for them. You attract them by normalizing their presence in the game, and encouraging them to participate and if desired, make careers out of it. You stop treating them as an abnormal presence in the chess world and part of chess society just as in general society. Honestly women might turn chess into a better social activity and general mainstream activity in my opinion with a bigger presence. You just have to start somewhere, and that’s the hardest part of it all.

Yeah, lets normalize and treat women same as men by offering special privileges... but yes, that is the actual answer. Womens group, special tournaments and prizes is what mostly get girls in other sports and activities. Since more women prefer socio-cooperative (computer) games with subtle competitions, maybe try to improve the club and competion scene so that people actually talk and socialize.

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Andrewtopia wrote:
KxKmate wrote:
Judit Polgar was the closest to breaking the barrier of women in top chess, and competing for the Word Championship by being for a time in the top 10 rated players in the world. Hu Yifan was the next closest. When you consider the ratio of women to men in chess the likelihood of excellence is probably fairly similar, there are just a huge difference in proportion of men to women in the game. I don’t believe in Beth Harmon stories, but I do believe in Judit Polgar and Hu Yifan stories, and believe they marked the way for other females to follow and improve their standings in chess.

You attract females to the game when you don’t alienate them early on by acting like they will ultimately be inferior at the game but are awarded special titles just for them, special competitions just for them. You attract them by normalizing their presence in the game, and encouraging them to participate and if desired, make careers out of it. You stop treating them as an abnormal presence in the chess world and part of chess society just as in general society. Honestly women might turn chess into a better social activity and general mainstream activity in my opinion with a bigger presence. You just have to start somewhere, and that’s the hardest part of it all.

Yes, but people seem to treat the fact that there are few women at the top of chess as a problem to be solved by immediate incentives rather than to be solved in a sustainable and truly healthy manner.

Additionally, I've always thought that a lot of it came down to temperment: men are traditionally more interested in things and have a strong desire to be the best at one thing whereas women are typically more interested in people and have a desire to be good at a collection of different things. That isn't changing any time soon, and attempts to change it in the Scandinavian countries have actually increased the gender disparity in many professions.

I think that probably touches on the main reason. I have no desire to be really good at chess. I certainly have no desire to be great or the best. I just like to play for fun. If it's not entertaining, if it's not played with someone who is also entertaining to play with, there is no point. 

It's a rare person who wants to be the best at chess because it's such an impractical goal. It just seems like it might be even more rare for that person to be a woman. 

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IzzyChessGirl hat geschrieben:

I think for me, the QG really introduced me to the game, I am pretty terrible, I have only just learned the basic openings etc. But how long until we have a non male World Champion? Would it take a Beth Harmon like story, even now? Basically my question is how can we get more girls playing?

The world champion question is not easy to answer. It is a question of statistics. I read some articles and it is a huge difference in amount of players male and female. In Germany the proportion is 16:1! (It would be interesting to have a statistic from chess.com!). So, if there is one chess genius in 10.000 player it is clear, that the female geniuses are very rare.

And in chess it is like in real live. Have a look, in nearly every part of live where you need long time and lot of support to get to the top (politics, economy etc.) there are much mor men than woman. I think this is much more a question of social reliances then something biological (you need to get supported to go to the top, and men normally support men, especially in places with a high rate of competiton and fight, like in politics etc.) And as a social worker who works with kids I´m pretty shure that womans are not that competitive as men are. And in a mens world you have to be overcompetitve as a woman. And, by the way, you find wery few "nerds" under the girls. And to be really really good in something, you have to be nerdy (have a look at magnus carlsen...).

An I read something very interesting some time ago: A lot of the professional chess playing women tell you, that they are not so interested in playing in the men´s section! Why? In the woman section it is much easier to go to the top and win tournaments and earn money, because the level of playing is not that high. That is totaly understandable but also a bit sad.

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Oh I love Beth Harman. I want her, so much. ;o) I found QG so compelling.

My last girlfriend and I used to play with each other and then when we were bored with that we’d play chess. It’s a nice thing for couples to do.
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me and my sis already play chess and she's already a bit higher than me

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maybe tell them that chess is the way to learn about how to plan things and be able to be prepared for situations (just chess but not irl)

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How you doin? 😏

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GeoiodAK wrote:
mpaetz wrote:

     If you see enough of the forums here that discuss women in chess you will find one big reason why there aren't more girls in chess--many of the adolescent boys that make up the majority of new young players think women are inherently inferior chess players and their attitude toward girls makes many potential female players uncomfortable.

     Also, for a long time women were barely accepted in organized chess, so it was something girls rarely considered. When I began to play in the mid 1970s, it was rare to see a female chess player. Returning to play five years ago after a 25-year absence I noticed many more females, especially among the younger players. Over time the presence of girls in chess circles will become more usual and even more women will take up the game.

thanks for the encouragement ..... I am a girl and I dream high ..... presently i would like to become a GM by taking coaching or something and play with high ranked GM's

 

Chess Tips

Always open with pawns (unless you are doing some knight tactic)

Develop Knights and Bishops early

Castle early

Attack in the "Middlegame"

Sacrifice wisely ( as in giving pieces for free to the opponent)

Think about their tactics

Analyze every game

Try to counterattack their attacks (like checking it to counterattack)

Don't play everything too fast ( you may make a blunder and your opponent gets an advantage)

 

Value of Pieces ( for trades)

Pawn    - 1

Knight  - 3

Bishop  - 3

Rook    -  5

Queen  - 9

King   -  The whole game

Just tips mate'

 

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IzzyChessGirl wrote:

I think for me, the QG really introduced me to the game, I am pretty terrible, I have only just learned the basic openings etc. But how long until we have a non male World Champion? Would it take a Beth Harmon like story, even now? Basically my question is how can we get more girls playing?

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I guess we have to go to what's people have been used to and advance from there. For instance, online gadgets like the android phone seem to have a hold on people's attention, girls included. It would be a nice conditioning method to turn watch something relevant to the purpose mentioned whenever girls are present---the Botezlive channel would be one.

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Dress it up as Brad Pitt?

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I don't know how to get more ladies to play, but I'm friends with three girls who are just now learning chess. But I think they're only learning because a class we're taking is going into a chess unit, not because they actually are interested in it. If you know any competitive girls challenge them to learn chess. I'm a dude, but that's how I got into chess lol to beat one of my friends.

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Dudethatplayschess69 wrote:

I don't know how to get more ladies to play, but I'm friends with three girls who are just now learning chess. But I think they're only learning because a class we're taking is going into a chess unit, not because they actually are interested in it. If you know any competitive girls challenge them to learn chess. I also know that they are studying in college. Once, we were talking about ways to prepare homework. One of the girls mentioned that the statistics assignments are like hell for her. So, she always uses https://essays.edubirdie.com/statistic-assignment-help when she gets such assignments. I think it's a great resource for students. I'm a dude, but that's how I got into chess lol to beat one of my friends.

I have met several women who play chess well, and you won't believe it, they are amazing.

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Promote media that features female chess players. Shows like "The Queen's Gambit" have already shown the potential impact. More movies, series and books featuring strong female characters in chess can have a significant influence.

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A fault of the modern world is to suggest that equality of outcome is to be required rather than equality of opportunity. And that failure to achieve equality of outcome is to do with prejudice. It might do sometimes, but mostly I think it isn't. Political careers have been built and fortunes made out of saying a, b, and c are discriminating against x,y, and z. That more women are midwives than men, and more bricklayers are men than women, suggests to me, if not to the chattering classes, that there just might be some merit in generalisation. And God forbid, it may arise out of biology rather than “society”, although society has surely arisen from biological imperatives.

Chess itself , up to a point, like life, requires generalisation. It is a labour saving way of continually not reinventing the wheel. If anything, women and girls coming to chess club will experience greater encouragement than men coming along because they will be perceived as possibly being out of their comfort zone, and this will be recognised. Men will go the extra mile.

But at the end of the day, is chess such a big deal if people need to be “persuaded” to do it? There is a saying that “chess is not for the kind hearted”. My belief is that chess players have a little bit of nastiness in us. A form of nastiness that most women, along with their own unique faults, might lack.

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chess ?...omg...u had me @ 'wanna play ?'

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Boys naturally prefer chess more than girls. Like how girls naturally prefer painting more than boys.