How do you determine your OTB rating?

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Just tell him how.

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Matthew11 wrote:

Just tell him how.


 Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. The OP wants to know his OTB rating, but hasn't played in a tournament, therefore cannot have an OTB rating and that's what everybody tried to tell him.

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Southeast USA, ok this analogy should work: 

It's like asking "Where am I in the NASCAR standings and how many NASCAR points do I have?"  You don't race in NASCAR, so you don't have NASCAR points, even if you do have a car and race people.

 You CAN find a list of USCF tournaments in North Carolina here: http://www.ncchess.org/tournaments.html

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I have played real chess before, by FIDE rules. In 1 on 1 matches (like a win is 1.0, draw is 0.5, loss is 0.0, and you total up the points and see who won, tiebreaker if needed) like those. So in a total of 15 real matches with FIDE rules I have: 9 wins, 5 draws, and 1 loss. Out of that data, how can I determine an OTB rating?

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JJN2 wrote:

I have played real chess before, by FIDE rules. In 1 on 1 matches (like a win is 1.0, draw is 0.5, loss is 0.0, and you total up the points and see who won, tiebreaker if needed) like those. So in a total of 15 real matches with FIDE rules I have: 9 wins, 5 draws, and 1 loss. Out of that data, how can I determine an OTB rating?


What rating were your opponents?

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They dont know either!

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YOU DON'T HAVE AN OTB RATING. IN ORDER TO GET ONE JOIN A CLUB, AND THEN PLAY RATED TOURNAMENTS. IF YOU HAVE PLAYED RATED TOURNAMENTS THEN SPEAK TO THE CLUB MANAGER, HE CAN PROBABLY POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IN RATED TOURNAMENTS YOU DONT HAVE A RATING.

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There are only 3 clubs in the state! I am in a Chess dead zone!

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vladamirduce wrote:

Yes it's 20 games.


Actually, you now have to play 25 rated games to no longer have a provisional rating and instead have an established rating. It's been that way for at least a couple of years (since I've rejoined the USCF).

But back to the OP, you have to play games in rated events (or rated matches) to get a rating. You could estimate your OTB rating if you played another rated player, with OTB conditions (time controls, etc) but that would only be an estimate.

So if you really want to know your rating, join the USCF and attend some rated events.

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Right now the North Carolina Open is being held in Charlotte NC. There are uscf rated tournies regularly in your state. If you want an OTB rating you have to join the USCF and then play rated games in rated USCF events, after 20 such games you will have an otb rating.

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If you really don't have very much chess local to you then you could join the USCF, start an affiliate, become a Club Tournament Director and run your own events. It takes some work and a some money but it is doable.

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What makes you think you have an OTB rating? Did you magically receive one when you were born? The rating measures your playing strength. In this case it measures your playing strength (relative to other players) in tourneys. So please explain how anyone could possibly know your rating/playing-strength-relative-to-others when you say you have yet to play in a single tourney?

The only explanation I can think of is that you believe that we all somehow have this 'magical' OTB rating assigned to us when we enter this world. But my personal opinion is that this is probably not true, because I have never seen any evidence of this. It appears to be quite on the contrary: each player's rating is re-calculated after he has played in a tourney. So go play in a tourney!

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No, that is Beaufort, South Carolina. I live in Beaufort, North Carolina.

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If you want an idea of what your rating might be, you can play a lot of games on chess.com. After you've played maybe twenty correspondence chess games, look at your chess.com rating and subtract 200 points. I don't know how live chess compares. Let me be clear that this would just be a way to estimate your what your rating would be if you had one.

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JJN2 wrote:

No, that is Beaufort, South Carolina. I live in Beaufort, North Carolina.


I edited my post after I noticed my error. Google and reading comprehension failed me.

There is an active club in Greenville. A little far probably to go for club play but depending on your finances, doable for tournaments.

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Live chess rating is nearly equal to elo, so your rating is probably <1000.

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I'm 13, so I can't drive anywhere, whenever. Frown

Avatar of Martin_Stahl
JJN2 wrote:

I'm 13, so I can't drive anywhere, whenever.


Completely understand. Have you asked your parents? If that isn't an option then maybe you should start a local club, if you can find somewhere to hold it and gauge the interest of having rated chess tournaments. Then maybe run your own tournaments.

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There may be some tournament players living near you, perhaps even in the same town. You could probably ride with them to tournies sometimes if you find out who they are and ask. Go to the NC chess homepage and look for clubs in your area.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
vladamirduce wrote:

Yes it's 20 games.


Actually, you now have to play 25 rated games to no longer have a provisional rating and instead have an established rating. It's been that way for at least a couple of years (since I've rejoined the USCF).


 Hmmm, maybe I am wrong, but USCF site FAQ says it's 20 OTB games http://main.uschess.org/content/view/7328/368/,

and 25 games if they are CC games http://main.uschess.org/content/view/7522/393/

However both of these are dated 1999?   Undecided   I joined USCF this year, ands o far I've only played in 2 tourney's 6 games total, so I'm still provisional also.   I'm going to have to ask at chess club again whether it's 20 or 25 games now.

 

Either way, it's clear the OP'r will need to play rated Tourney's to get an official OTB rating.