How do you win as black?

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Whenever I play a game, I always lose if I'm black. I can easily beat the computer level 3 as white, but if I'm black, the computer gets the lead in development, and can always checkmate me before the endgame even starts, which is frustrating. Same when I play other people, however some people beat me as black. How can I do that?
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Short answer: White has to make a mistake.

Long answer: You need to study openings.  Start out playing only 1.e4 e5 and 1.d4 d5 with Black and learn the ins and outs of the classical openings.  (Open Game, Queen's Gambit Declined)

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lol

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lol to greencastleblock

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COOL_SHEEP-77 wrote:
Whenever I play a game, I always lose if I'm black. I can easily beat the computer level 3 as white, but if I'm black, the computer gets the lead in development, and can always checkmate me before the endgame even starts, which is frustrating. Same when I play other people, however some people beat me as black. How can I do that?

on a different forum u said u cant beat lvl 3 computer...

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If he's being checkmated early in the game, then yes, he probably needs to work on learning basic opening moves as well as the opening principals.

Even though opening study can be a pitfall for new players, you do have to spend enough time with it to learn the basics.

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ReddyJ wrote:
COOL_SHEEP-77 wrote:
Whenever I play a game, I always lose if I'm black. I can easily beat the computer level 3 as white, but if I'm black, the computer gets the lead in development, and can always checkmate me before the endgame even starts, which is frustrating. Same when I play other people, however some people beat me as black. How can I do that?

on a different forum u said u cant beat lvl 3 computer...

In the other topic he said he loses sometimes to it.

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Sco64 wrote:
Ikr what person in their right mind tells a sub 1000 player to study openings. Totally wrong advice.

 

Well, that's your opinion.  I don't suppose you have any basis for saying that, besides parroting what you've heard others told.

Clearly he doesn't have to know multiple variations or what lines are popular at GM level right now, but he has to know *something* about the openings that he plays.  It will help with learning about pawn structures and planning as well.

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Yeah, basically that. I don't mean he should memorize many opening lines and I don't think GCB is saying that either. But it's just general chess knowledge to have seen a few example games from masters in the early 1900s. Knowing the first few moves of a mainline Ruy, Queen's Gambit, Scotch, Slav, etc is just general knowledge. 5 moves or less is what I'm saying.

Of course most important is opening principals, knowing tactical motifs, and diligent calculation of forcing lines on every move.

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connect rooks, castle, get pieces out, DONT GET FRIED LIVERED

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how to defend fried liver is given in chess mentor

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How do you win as black?

 

Just play better than your opponent.

How to play better than your opponent? Be better prepared.

How to be better prepared? Study chess more than your opponent.

How to study chess?

There are lots of ways.  One way is THE KING OF PATZERS CHESS ANALYSIS, INC:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/your-games-realistically-analysed-by-the-king-of-patzers

Other way is learning the marvelous BRAIN FRY ATTACK:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/the-most-interesting-game-of-chess-was-played-here-in-chesscom?page=89

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To win as Black, just keep playing the best moves you possibly can play and if your opponent makes enough mistakes, you may win.

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To win as black, you must play as white pieces.

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I just had a look at his games, and I see no slow or rapid games this year, only some blitz or faster. Maybe these are "play against computer" games as he did mention a computer.

Maybe "play vs computer" games provide good training but I can't analyse the games to see what needed improvement.

 

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Put some games up so we can see where you may be going wrong...