How easy is it to become a GM?

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Then he must have devotef more than 10000 hours to become GM. And he is a chess genius. So how would 10000 be enugh to nongenius? Fischer did it without Stockfish and Megadatabase. Perhsps thede 2 are the keys

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bong711 wrote:

Im not familiar with Fischers history. How is his school performance? Did he have a girlfriend like most teenagers? summer jobs?

Didn't he drop out of school as early as poss instead of getting a real job?

Are you calling me a non-genius? 

Yes and so are many top GMs. Chessbase and Fritz to Stockfish made it easier.

Well I started at 16 . I was 700 on chess.com 5 years Back . In May 2016 I was 2350+ but then I left online chess for serious improvement . I just need a Mouse to cross 2350 again

So what i was saying 2 Hours a Day is Perfect to get to FM or IM . Getting to GM might take 3-4 Hours a Day atleast for me in 1-2 years .

No need for 12-14 Hours a day lol

I knew it was easy!

Well said!   Best of luck and don't let anyone kill your dream!

And was that classical FIDE or chess.com bullet/blitz?

Come on.

Imwould say it was fairly impossible unless having natural talent and the good fortune to learn the game at a young age.

 It is like most other sports, without the talent you will hit a ceiling that no amount of study will take you past

I have Drawn to 1 GM and lost 1 and my score vs many IMs is 50-50 approx . playing in our local Club . 

I have played only 2 USCF tnmts , 2 years back So Its not a correct yardstick to Evaluate my current level . Nor chess.com Rating

Fischer left school at 16, when he was already a GM. He reached that level while still a schoolboy. School lessons bored him, as they did Alekhine.

Alekhine kept himself occupied during lessons by analysing correspondence games in his head, to which practice he attributed his early development in the game, and his later skill at blindfold chess.

If you are an IM by the time you are 20-you can make GM. If you are starting in your 20s-no chance. Well..not no but.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009 chance.

To beat a GM is easy like to beat Bolt in 100 metres or avoid to Messi to score a goal xD.

I think a day will come where the average post will be:

"I'm 25, and have been playing chess for 2 weeks.  I want to become a GM.  I play nothing but bullet, and have the attention span of a goldfish.  How long will it take to make GM?"

This is a good comparison. There are fewer GMs in the US than current NBA players, and fewer GMs in the world than there are current and retired NBA players.

People i know in person that truley want to improve at chess actually work at it.  They dont show up at the chess club and ask absurd question like you see here.  There is something about unleashing the interwebz on some people.  Its like they actually forget how to act...they lose concept of how to be a human being...and how to THINK.  There must be something magical that im missing.  I bet if people actually proof read what they want to post before actually posting it, it might be an eye opener...then again...maybe not.

That is very witty and amusing.  But the analogy does not hold.  Not much can be done to affect the size of the skeleton after puberty ... it continues to increase in breadth slowly and in height not at all.  

The brain remains plastic and adaptable, much more so than was thought for most of the 20th century, and capable of new learning throughout life.  We don't yet know the limits of its adaptability, nor do we know how learning differs at different ages, if it does.

It might be true that no-one that learned chess in their 20's has ever become a grandmaster, but that does not mean that it is biologically impossible.  I suspect that very few people of mature years have ever worked hard enough, or done the right sort of work, to ever get close to their personal limits.

I don't see anything wrong with someone having a grand ambition to become a GM, even if most people will take the view that if no-one has ever managed it before then they are not going to waste their time trying.

What annoy me are the totally unrealistic ideas of how "easy" it is to become any kind of chess master. It seems that the weaker the player the less realistic their ideas, as was nicely illustrated by the equation someone posted many posts ago. 

This would've tickled the ribs of IM Andrew Martin.