How high ELO do you honestly believe I can get if I memorize all the openings and basics?

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DreamscapeHorizons

I went over 1800 uscf without knowing openings well. I never seriously studied them, that could be why I plateaued early & didn't advance further.

MaetsNori
jeremywhitaker wrote:

As title says, I plan to memorize ALL the openings, ...
I spend about 5-10 hours a day studying, just to give you an idea of my dedication.

It would be more efficient to choose a basic repertoire and spend your time studying that, instead.

- Pick a main first move for White that you'd like to go with. 1.e4 and 1.d4 are the two most popular options, though there are other quality choices, as well.

- Pick a defense against 1.e4

- Pick a defense against 1.d4

Studying those three things alone should give you more than enough to work on (in addition to learning basic chess principles, and working on tactics).

SSGOKU29

lmao bro 1600 is awful you do not need to memorize the openings to get that rating. I am offering coaching and we can easily get you to 1000 easy.

checkmated0001
SSGOKU29 wrote:

lmao bro 1600 is awful you do not need to memorize the openings to get that rating. I am offering coaching and we can easily get you to 1000 easy.

If 1600 is awful than what is 1000?

SSGOKU29

It's basically as awful as you can be, it's like barely knowing anything. 1600 players we suck so bad it's no joke. If he thinks he needs opening theory to be an awful 1600-1700 I can tell you it's not necessary at all. Play alot, watch some chess content, puzzles and maybe some chess diamond lessons and you'll easily be 2000+

BPGHchess
jeremywhitaker wrote:

As title says, I plan to memorize ALL the openings, do all the lessons I can get my hands on, and then perhaps do some puzzles afterwards to get back into the groove.
Im currently 680 elo right now, how much elo do you think I'll gain after I do this? I plan to spend at least 200 hours studying before I start playing again. So far I am about 100 hours in.
I spend about 5-10 hours a day studying, just to give you an idea of my dedication.

I can see the benefit of memorising some openings, but I believe it is humanly impossible to memorise all of them. Most openings will also be mediocre or dubious and will not help you as you advance to higher elo. However, doing lessons and puzzles are definitely a good way to improve. There are lots of free chess puzzles online (eg. Lichess) to practice. I also never really focused on my openings; I just winged it wink. The more crucial part should be the middlegame and endgame. In my opinion, memorisation of openings would only be helpful if you are a titled player. But that's in my opinion. What do ya'll think?

SSGOKU29

do not memorize the openings do not memorize the openings you are wasting your time. If you memorize the openings I will still destroy you. DM me and i can coach you

SSGOKU29

90% of the opening theory is only good for 2200+ if you do not meet this category your wasting your time. I know only basic theory for the ruy lopez and french and that's it. I have an entire book on opening theory and it's like 900 pages long you are not going to have the guts to memorize all that bro.

Yosef-posen

I believe that you can get a rating of at least 2000

Charizard_637

There is a graph relating to this that can be modeled using the function y = 10x^2 + r - 90 where y is your projected rating, x is the number of moves you memorize, and r is your current rating. The -90 is because the average player has a repertoire at least 3 moves deep. Hope this helps!

BigChessplayer665
JamesColeman wrote:

Up to 10 hours a day, and 100 hours left to go, you’ll be done in under two weeks. Come back and let us know.

I would go with play 100 games first then study you kinda need to gauge your skill level first before you study

joelr314

Ha, I was memorizing counters to one opening the advanced bots were using and was able to get much further with them. Then played a beginner bot and lost to it's weird mistakes. Once I settled down I was better but initially I panicked. It's probably better to spend time on tactics and blunder checks and stuff like that.

mikewier

This is a very silly idea.

1. it is impossible to memorize all the openings. And if you think you have memorized them all, there will be new openings, and new sub variations, and lines going more moves deepl.

2. memorizing opening sequences without understanding the ideas behind them is simplistic. It would be much more economical to target a few openings and focus on understanding the plans associated with them.

3. Openings are actually less important than the endgame and the middle game.

BigChessplayer665

I honestly just spammed queens gambit French defence and atalian (or any other e4 opening ) I actually couldn't play the London correctly till 2200:/ or the scandi (I lost to a 600) it's easy to learn once you get the hang of it but watching other people play the openings your studying and trying it out yourself after is most important usually you learn more by playing

BigChessplayer665
SSGOKU29 wrote:

It's basically as awful as you can be, it's like barely knowing anything. 1600 players we suck so bad it's no joke. If he thinks he needs opening theory to be an awful 1600-1700 I can tell you it's not necessary at all. Play alot, watch some chess content, puzzles and maybe some chess diamond lessons and you'll easily be 2000+

The worst part is 1800 is kind of a barrier they suck really bad but other times play like 2000 ish it's kinda like 600s but steroids

A7PA
jeremywhitaker написал:

As title says, I plan to memorize ALL the openings, do all the lessons I can get my hands on, and then perhaps do some puzzles afterwards to get back into the groove.
Im currently 680 elo right now, how much elo do you think I'll gain after I do this? I plan to spend at least 200 hours studying before I start playing again. So far I am about 100 hours in.
I spend about 5-10 hours a day studying, just to give you an idea of my dedication.

You will have minimum 1500 ELO!

Rme2020-20

Better than memorizing them , try to practice more you can ....👍

wiredtearow

Memorizing openings without tactics or skill to back it up is like memorizing prayers/phrases in another language that you don't understand. You may look fancy in the opening but it only takes a little bit of push back to see that your tactics might not be on par to execute it well.

As everyone said, it's better to pick 2 each for white and black play it until you're familiarized, then focus on tactics.

BigChessplayer665
wiredtearow wrote:

Memorizing openings without tactics or skill to back it up is like memorizing prayers/phrases in another language that you don't understand. You may look fancy in the opening but it only takes a little bit of push back to see that your tactics might not be on par to execute it well.

As everyone said, it's better to pick 2 each for white and black play it until you're familiarized, then focus on tactics.

I just played all the e4 openings you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly

magipi
BigChessplayer665 wrote:

you actually have to know a bit of everything(at least the main plans) to play e4 correctly

Yes, but a 500 rated player doesn't have to to play e4 correctly. Following opening principles, avoiding obvious blunders and punishing obvious blunders - these are more than enough.