Bah, the story I told above is not all there is, of course. No sane IM would expect to win 10-0 against a 2000+ player, and, of course, I collected a few draws and wins against Masters, and even a draw against a GM. It's hard to tell the whole truth, when, in reality, they come rare to us, and you'll be lucky if, in real life, you play more than 5 FM-IM and GM together in a year.
How many people in the world are 2000 elo?
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Jul 4, 2024
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can you bench 300 pounds? thats very strong for normal people but weak for professionals, yet its still like an 85th percentile bench.
by comparison a 2000 elo player is like the 95th percentile. Sure a 2000 is a piranha in a shark tank compared to professionals who are in the 99.2-99.7th percentile , but you are awesome . in a tournament hall, you are at least stronger of 19 of 20 people there and probably fairly well known by many at the local level.
in some countries, where the top player may be a 2300 FM/IM person, the 2000 is a candidate for board 4 in the olympiad. Some U.S states, you are probably the strongest player there!
Jul 4, 2024
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llama_l wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
can you bench 300 pounds? thats very strong for normal people but weak for professionals, yet its still like an 85th percentile bench.
by comparison a 2000 elo player is like the 95th percentile. Sure a 2000 is a piranha in a shark tank compared to professionals who are in the 99.2-99.7th percentile , but you are awesome . in a tournament hall, you are at least stronger of 19 of 20 people there and probably fairly well known by many at the local level.
in some countries, where the top player may be a 2300 FM/IM person, the 2000 is a candidate for board 4 in the olympiad. Some U.S states, you are probably the strongest player there!
Although remember, most of these kids mean 2000 rapid, they don't mean OTB.
2000 OTB is much better than 2000 rapid, and like you said, 2000 OTB is good enough to be well known by local players as one of the best in your small area.
But I like the comparison with fitness... if you take a kid at 13, and have them start lifting weights regularly, then by age 20 they're going to be in the top 1% easily, because almost no one starts that early... same for chess, if you take a kid, and give them training, then 10 years later anything less than FM is kind of pathetic... but starting as an adult FM is impossible.
2000 rapid is very elusive. some rapid players in the 2050 can beat me in of my bad days, others are pure fodder and cant imagine them being even 1800 in real life
Back in the days (like in the 90s), chess players used to say that, to them GMs, players at 2000-2200 were the "weak players". Hence, to them, under that, you don't even exist (as a chess player).
Once, I played GM Anatoly Vaisser, former candidate to the World title, in a Rapid tournament. He only wandered around, then came and played a move quickly, then wandered again, and crushed me like I was nothing in like 24 moves. Most irritating. But it says it all about what a 2000 Elo chess player really is: a patzer, just a bit stronger than the other patzers.
It is commonly believed, that chess.com's Rapid rating is over evaluated by 200-300 Elo points compared to the FIDE classical chess Elo rating. But you'll always find exceptions to any such "rule".