In the given position discussion,I find both were repeating the same moves hence why didn't you also play Bg4 and put him in the same position as you were..
How to fight off this pin?
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Feb 27, 2017
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#43
Didn't read the complete comments ,but a CM has already discussed the move with you..
Feb 27, 2017
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#44
In such a position, I'm a fan of focusing on the center to try to get my queen to d6. White currently has a threat up to play Nd5, so I think Be6 is a decent move. I'm not a fan of h6 as it weakens your king and you have to be on the constant look out for tactics involving the Bxh6 sac. I've won many games with this sac even prematurely from various positions, especially if I can get two pawns for the sac. Na5 does look interesting too to free up your c-pawn to fight for the center.
The CM mentioned Bg4, but I'm not sure how good the symmetry is in such a position due to the Nd5 threat.
@leoultimater I do Be6, the only problem is after Be6 White plays Bb3 and keeps the pin. Still a good move though as it develops and forces the White bishop to move twice in the opening. 0-0-0 also works
@bluejunk Bishop sacs after g5 then hxg5 Nxg5 and the king is in danger
Mar 11, 2017
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#47
Minh_Chess_Midget wrote:
@tiredofjapan That's a good point. Castling queenside seems like the best option. But still if the queen moves away, bishop takes the knight and I isolate a pawn. But after castling queenside h6 is very playable, followed by g5 if White plays Bh5.
@foofooes Kh8 is probably more dangerous, my king is on the very corner and is susceptible to being cut off eventually.
@thechessdreamer Bb3 keeps the pin there. I can understand Bxe6 fxe6 and then 0-0 because of rook defence, but Bb3 is solid for White.
@macer75 Right...
no it is not. I saw a grandmaster do that when his king was open.
just take the piece
I stop yours before I attack
7...Bg4 looks promising. After 8. Nd5 Nd4, both kings' positions are going to open up, and while white is better off due to the first move advantage, the position is far from being decided.
But really, I've never liked the 3...Bc5 move, I feel like after eventual ...d6 it weakens the black king position too much. 3...Be7 or 3...d6 are good enough, and both have solid developed lines you can study.
There is also the queen side castling idea, although can't say I am a big fan of it, due to how easily white's queen side pawns can storm forward with tempos.
i like moving your priest from c8 to e6 so that if they play their knight to d5 then you can take the N on d5 with the Priest on e6.
Normally comes up a move earlier because if white delays with 6 0-0 then you can be the one to pin. So 6. bg5 h6 7. bg4 g5 and black is doing just fine - the sacrifice is nothing to be feared. https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=15&n=35760&ms=e4.e5.Nf3.Nc6.Bc4.Bc5.Nc3.Nf6.d3.d6.Bg5.h6.Bh4.g5&ns=3.5.5.6.80.161.1454.954.872.918.1318.3733.32634.35760. In fact, if one is going to sac, it is with the knight first, because saccing the bishop first is HORRIBLE. Bxp, pxp, nxp, ng4! and white is toast, the game is lost. Play it out with an engine if you cant work out the tactics. If white does not play 6. bg5 and instead plays 6. 0-0 as in the game, then the best move is for you to play bg4.
Minh_Chess_Midget wrote:
So basically I have a friend who always plays the Italian against me, then I respond with Giuoco Piano. Sometimes he gets this pin and I have no way to fight it off. Does anyone know how to stop the pin below? The problem is if I move my other pieces, my queen and knight are immobile for most of the game.
I don't know, h6 is the best try, but white can play Bxf6. Minh_Chess_Midget, if he takes, take back WITH THE QUEEN. Even if you think white could then play Nd5. Playing gxf6 will ruin the king's castled position.
Kingchessplayer2000 wrote:
If it is Minh_That is going to be raged and killed at and by ME. Then you just WAIT..😀😀😀😀😈😈👿👿
what is that
Kingchessplayer2000 wrote:
I knew it. The person you are talking about is ME!! How dare you insult me! Minhty
YEAH.
Kingchessplayer2000 wrote:
Do not experiment a few lines Minty or you will truly die. You normally stop me anyway so yeah
OK.
Jul 12, 2017
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#58
I play the same line as your friend. In general, I love getting that pin. I think it's best that you not allow it to happen, by playing h6 BEFORE he can play Bg5. Now, it's true that does weaken your castled position and you have to beware of tactics where he later puts his queen on d2 and then plays Bxh6, you play Pxh6, and he plays Qxh6, which means you get a bishop for two pawns, but his queen is right in the face of your king. You have to be careful of that, BUT it actually can be defended, and then you are up material...and anyway depending on him he might not even be willing to try it.
Lol Kingchessplayer2000 is my annoying friend. Btw people still post on this?
Do not experiment a few lines Minty or you will truly die. You normally stop me anyway so yeah