How to stop getting into time trouble (OTB)
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What do you mean by time trouble? Is it real or is it an unfounded fear to lose on time? How many over the board games did you actually lose on time? With a 30 second increment you have 30 seconds to make your move, that is no time trouble at all. Bullet players play a whole game at a pace of 1 second per move. You probably have an irrational fear of losing on time. Most chess games are essentially decided by move 30. So it makes sense to use all time before move 30 and then finish the game on increment. That is how top grandmasters handle it. 30 seconds is ample time to make a move in a simplified position, which you have built yourself and about which you have thought a long time before so you know your plans and strategy. It is a different story if you did not think well before and then you land in a complicated position where you do not know what to do. Then 30 seconds may not suffice. In that case your thinking before was lacking.
Jul 25, 2021
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MilitaryStrategy wrote:
tygxc wrote:
What do you mean by time trouble? Is it real or is it an unfounded fear to lose on time? How many over the board games did you actually lose on time? With a 30 second increment you have 30 seconds to make your move, that is no time trouble at all. Bullet players play a whole game at a pace of 1 second per move. You probably have an irrational fear of losing on time. Most chess games are essentially decided by move 30. So it makes sense to use all time before move 30 and then finish the game on increment. That is how top grandmasters handle it. 30 seconds is ample time to make a move in a simplified position, which you have built yourself and about which you have thought a long time before so you know your plans and strategy. It is a different story if you did not think well before and then you land in a complicated position where you do not know what to do. Then 30 seconds may not suffice. In that case your thinking before was lacking.
This is my point. There are players who post "I'm a 2000" who have never, ever played a game that has a 30+ sec increment with a huge chunk of time up front. They need to stop pontificating as if they're actually master class and beyond. They're not.
I did. If you want, My FIDE rating is 1700.
Jul 25, 2021
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#7
My STANDARD FIDE rating. It could be higher, because I am hugely underrated.
Jul 25, 2021
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MilitaryStrategy wrote:
tygxc wrote:
What do you mean by time trouble? Is it real or is it an unfounded fear to lose on time? How many over the board games did you actually lose on time? With a 30 second increment you have 30 seconds to make your move, that is no time trouble at all. Bullet players play a whole game at a pace of 1 second per move. You probably have an irrational fear of losing on time. Most chess games are essentially decided by move 30. So it makes sense to use all time before move 30 and then finish the game on increment. That is how top grandmasters handle it. 30 seconds is ample time to make a move in a simplified position, which you have built yourself and about which you have thought a long time before so you know your plans and strategy. It is a different story if you did not think well before and then you land in a complicated position where you do not know what to do. Then 30 seconds may not suffice. In that case your thinking before was lacking.
This is my point. There are players who post "I'm a 2000" who have never, ever played a game that has a 30+ sec increment with a huge chunk of time up front. They need to stop pontificating as if they're actually master class and beyond. They're not.
How can you confirm that? Swear to God, or whoever you obey or value the most, what you said. I can assure you that you won't.
Jul 25, 2021
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#9
MilitaryStrategy wrote:
meowmeomeo wrote:
My STANDARD FIDE rating. It could be higher, because I am hugely underrated.
Over how many games? Is your blitz on here *really* 700+ points higher than your OTB classical? (Standard. USCF won't even use the word classical)
at least 50 or more OTB 90+30 games, not including the National Championships (btw I am not American)
Follow the 10 minute rule. You should rarely think more than 10 minutes on a single move in g90 or faster and you shouldn't fall behind more than 10minutes than your opponent.
That applys to 5-10sec increment/delay in g90 or less. In g90+30 or g90/40 +30min +30sec increment you can maybe afford 1-2 really long thinks in critical situations but make sure ur not over thinking and wasting your time repeating same lines over.
In the time control where you get bonus time you should aim to make move 40 with 10 minutes left to spare. Having 10minutes left with 15 moves left to make is really not a good idea.
meowmeomeo wrote:
MilitaryStrategy wrote:
tygxc wrote:
What do you mean by time trouble? Is it real or is it an unfounded fear to lose on time? How many over the board games did you actually lose on time? With a 30 second increment you have 30 seconds to make your move, that is no time trouble at all. Bullet players play a whole game at a pace of 1 second per move. You probably have an irrational fear of losing on time. Most chess games are essentially decided by move 30. So it makes sense to use all time before move 30 and then finish the game on increment. That is how top grandmasters handle it. 30 seconds is ample time to make a move in a simplified position, which you have built yourself and about which you have thought a long time before so you know your plans and strategy. It is a different story if you did not think well before and then you land in a complicated position where you do not know what to do. Then 30 seconds may not suffice. In that case your thinking before was lacking.
This is my point. There are players who post "I'm a 2000" who have never, ever played a game that has a 30+ sec increment with a huge chunk of time up front. They need to stop pontificating as if they're actually master class and beyond. They're not.
I did. If you want, My FIDE rating is 1700.
aay, 1700 fide buddies!
Also, I’m getting in time trouble in G90+30 which is just sad. I don’t lose on time, I just mess up better positions to hold a draw/opponent offers draw and I am too low on time to push for a win
#28
"I’m getting in time trouble in G90+30"
You have 30 seconds for a move, that is no time trouble. Time trouble is having to play 20 moves in 1 minute.
"I just mess up better positions to hold a draw"
30 seconds should suffice to find a move in a won position about which you have thought for hours before
"opponent offers draw and I am too low on time to push for a win"
30 seconds is ample time to find a move in a won position
The problem exists in your mind only.
You look at the clock and take fright and then think about the clock and not about the position and then you mess up your won position.
Or you have a won position, your opponent offers a draw and you accept for fear of the clock.
Jul 25, 2021
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tygxc wrote:
#28
"I’m getting in time trouble in G90+30"
You have 30 seconds for a move, that is no time trouble. Time trouble is having to play 20 moves in 1 minute.
"I just mess up better positions to hold a draw"
30 seconds should suffice to find a move in a won position about which you have thought for hours before
"opponent offers draw and I am too low on time to push for a win"
30 seconds is ample time to find a move in a won position
The problem exists in your mind only.
You look at the clock and take fright and then think about the clock and not about the position and then you mess up your won position.
Or you have a won position, your opponent offers a draw and you accept for fear of the clock.
Time trouble could happen when you have a few seconds in the clock in a 90+30 game in a critical position where you need at least 25 minutes to calculate because the position is too complicated.
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It is not the position that requires 25 minutes. If you get the position in a bullet game, then you have to play a move in 1 second. If you get the same position in a correspondence game, then you may need 10 days of analysis to decide on your move.
In a 90+30 game spend all of your time before move 30 and then finish the game at 30 seconds per move. All your thoughts before move 30 help you play the position after move 30 in 30 seconds per move.
I've gone over a couple of your games, Kevin. My initial, tentative impression is that you spend too much time on non-critical positions or moves.
The other is that you achieve won positions and you squander away the win into a draw or loss because of not knowing technique which leads to time trouble. Study games of players who squelch counterplay and convert the win smoothly. Capablanca perhaps.
SeniorPatzer wrote:
I've gone over a couple of your games, Kevin. My initial, tentative impression is that you spend too much time on non-critical positions or moves.
The other is that you achieve won positions and you squander away the win into a draw or loss because of not knowing technique which leads to time trouble. Study games of players who squelch counterplay and convert the win smoothly. Capablanca perhaps.
Thanks for the actual advice! I’ll definitely check out Capablanca
I’ve been turning some possible wins into draws in over the board chess because of the clock, and I get in time trouble even with a 30 second increment. can someone please address this lost cause?