How to stop ::redacted for name and shame:: from spamming the tactics trainer?

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Josechu
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
Josechu wrote:
hayabusahayate16 wrote:

Wow. he is obviously using it to track which problems he has attempted. Then if he happens upon it again he will know that he has already attempted it.

And so will the rest of us! He's so diligent about informing us on his attempts! In fact he must be one of the top performers in "attempts" at TT problems.

"Less successful are "my" attempts "at" humour." (MrCopperhead)

Contrary to popular belief, chess.com wasn't created solely for your benefit. Other people are free to use it as they wish. In other words, if you don't like it then bugger off you blathering boob.

Alliteration!

You_haxored_me
VibrantMoves wrote:

OP, what's wrong with it?

http://www.chess.com/home/

Ever been there? It shows a list of all the hundreds... screw it. Just read what has already been posted.

Of course, if you don't like this thread, just ignore it.

mb664
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
Josechu wrote:
hayabusahayate16 wrote:

Wow. he is obviously using it to track which problems he has attempted. Then if he happens upon it again he will know that he has already attempted it.

And so will the rest of us! He's so diligent about informing us on his attempts! In fact he must be one of the top performers in "attempts" at TT problems.

"Less successful are "my" attempts "at" humour." (MrCopperhead)

Contrary to popular belief, chess.com wasn't created solely for your benefit. Other people are free to use it as they wish. In other words, if you don't like it then bugger off you blathering boob.

Hmmm, so if I engineered a bot to find every thread you post in, then spam all those threads with 1000 Viagra ads to make every contribution of yours unreadable, I'm sure you'd still be telling anyone who didn't like it to bugger off. Hey, that's just how I benefit most from using chess.com! Who are you to tell me how to derive benefit from the site?

The site was created to be a community with social features such as sending notifications to those who are tracking comments. The presumption of having social features is that users will do things that interest other users. That's breaking here - users are solipsistically spamming others' notifications with their own tactics score bragging. Do I think users who do this deserve to be drawn and quartered? No, but the site should note that this behavior is disapproved of, and take measures to discourage it, like allowing upvoting/downvoting of comments on TT.

Last thing - unless TT works differently for diamond members, "he will know that he has already attempted it" is unlikely to be the reason for this kind of spamming. The trainer does not display the comments until after you complete the tactic, so the only value this would have is telling you you've completed the tactic - after you've already wasted your time doing it for the second or third time. And at least 90% of scorespammers do not post when they have failed the problem, only when they pass, so tracking is generally unlikely to hold water as an explanation.

You_haxored_me

Post Attempted ... 04/17/2015

didibrian

If u go into ur privacy settings and type in the block user area I think it will work

chester6
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
Josechu wrote:
hayabusahayate16 wrote:

Wow. he is obviously using it to track which problems he has attempted. Then if he happens upon it again he will know that he has already attempted it.

And so will the rest of us! He's so diligent about informing us on his attempts! In fact he must be one of the top performers in "attempts" at TT problems.

"Less successful are "my" attempts "at" humour." (MrCopperhead)

Contrary to popular belief, chess.com wasn't created solely for your benefit. Other people are free to use it as they wish. In other words, if you don't like it then bugger off you blathering boob.

Yes, chess.com was not created solely for my benefit, and the comments section to tactics trainer puzzles was not created solely for any one person's benefit.  That is why I would not use it to post nothing but my results to the puzzles I attempt which will benefit me solely, and make it more difficult to have discussions about the actual puzzle which could benefit the community at large.  And after experiencing how helpful the comments to puzzles at chesstempo are, it is the same reason that I am annoyed that chess.com lacks the same helpful comments on their puzzles because of people who like to track their individual puzzle activity for their sole benefit by clogging up the public forum which is the comment section.

mb664
didibrian wrote:

If u go into ur privacy settings and type in the block user area I think it will work

Nope, unless there is a delay, this doesn't work - I just tried it. Blocking only makes you invisible in Live Chess to the blocked user, and prevents them from messaging you or posting notes on your wall. It doesn't serve AFAIK as a generalized mute button.

RonaldJosephCote

      So we have 2 penalties on the field.Undecided  Go to chesstempo to solve the puzzle and then come here to comment, or solve the puzzle here, and go to chesstempo to comment.  Decisions, Decisions,  Wheather it is nobler to.....Yell

chester6
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
 

No, most members don't complain or care about this trivial matter. Only a few idiotic boobs.

The people opposed to the behavior in question are simply trying to promote a greater chess learning environment.  I hardly think that is an idiotic or trivial endeavor.  I think that tracking your attempts on puzzles for future reference could be beneficial if done correctly, or fun at the very least.  However, when this behavior hinders the ability of the community to collaborate, other means should be sought by those individuals.

RonaldJosephCote

        Ya know, with the puzzles, you have to keep repeating them till you get them right. In the forums, you don't have to keep repeating what everybody said with copy & paste.

chester6
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

        Ya know, with the puzzles, you have to keep repeating them till you get them right. In the forums, you don't have to keep repeating what everybody said with copy & paste.

when the amount of text becomes cumbersome I try to delete most of it while still making clear to whom and what I am responding.  Every once in a while I have a really hard time telling who you 'non-quoters' are talking to.

Darth_Algar

You don't have to track the comments on Tactics Trainer. You can turn tracking off.

You_haxored_me
Darth_Algar wrote:

You don't have to track the comments on Tactics Trainer. You can turn tracking off.

I don't want to be forced to disable tracking for a thread because of one spammer. I also have no way to disable several years worth of threads I've posted in which this site has set up to automatically track after posting. That wasn't an issue years back before all these morons came and decided to flood the comment section with crap.

You_haxored_me
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
mb664 wrote:
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
Josechu wrote:
hayabusahayate16 wrote:

Wow. he is obviously using it to track which problems he has attempted. Then if he happens upon it again he will know that he has already attempted it.

And so will the rest of us! He's so diligent about informing us on his attempts! In fact he must be one of the top performers in "attempts" at TT problems.

"Less successful are "my" attempts "at" humour." (MrCopperhead)

Contrary to popular belief, chess.com wasn't created solely for your benefit. Other people are free to use it as they wish. In other words, if you don't like it then bugger off you blathering boob.

Hmmm, so if I engineered a bot to find every thread you post in, then spam all those threads with 1000 Viagra ads to make every contribution of yours unreadable, I'm sure you'd still be telling anyone who didn't like it to bugger off. Hey, that's just how I benefit most from using chess.com! Who are you to tell me how to derive benefit from the site?

The site was created to be a community with social features such as sending notifications to those who are tracking comments. The presumption of having social features is that users will do things that interest other users. That's breaking here - users are solipsistically spamming others' notifications with their own tactics score bragging. Do I think users who do this deserve to be drawn and quartered? No, but the site should note that this behavior is disapproved of, and take measures to discourage it, like allowing upvoting/downvoting of comments on TT.

Last thing - unless TT works differently for diamond members, "he will know that he has already attempted it" is unlikely to be the reason for this kind of spamming. The trainer does not display the comments until after you complete the tactic, so the only value this would have is telling you you've completed the tactic - after you've already wasted your time doing it for the second or third time. And at least 90% of scorespammers do not post when they have failed the problem, only when they pass, so tracking is generally unlikely to hold water as an explanation.

That would be spam you boob so go ahead and do it so you can be banned already and I don't find myself tempted to read your idiotic posts.

You clearly aren't intelligent enough to know what spam is.

Darth_Algar
You_haxored_me wrote:
Darth_Algar wrote:

You don't have to track the comments on Tactics Trainer. You can turn tracking off.

I don't want to be forced to disable tracking for a thread because of one spammer. I also have no way to disable several years worth of threads I've posted in which this site has set up to automatically track after posting. That wasn't an issue years back before all these morons came and decided to flood the comment section with crap.

Well then I don't know what to tell you. Life is full of little traumas we just have to deal with.

You_haxored_me

105 minutes ago · Quote · #35


To you, this is a valid comment and not spam. After all, I saw it and felt the need to copy and paste it for all to see.

You_haxored_me
Darth_Algar wrote:
You_haxored_me wrote:
Darth_Algar wrote:

You don't have to track the comments on Tactics Trainer. You can turn tracking off.

I don't want to be forced to disable tracking for a thread because of one spammer. I also have no way to disable several years worth of threads I've posted in which this site has set up to automatically track after posting. That wasn't an issue years back before all these morons came and decided to flood the comment section with crap.

Well then I don't know what to tell you. Life is full of little traumas we just have to deal with.

Like endlessly getting updates you can never turn off?

mb664
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
You_haxored_me wrote:

105 minutes ago · Quote · #35


To you, this is a valid comment and not spam. After all, I saw it and felt the need to copy and paste it for all to see.

Spamming is about the intention. A harmless post as a reminder on TT comment boards for one's own benefit can hardly be considered spam. 

Hahaha, it's funny how every time there's a thread about this issue, some small angry pantywaist jumps in that they know the One True Definition of spam, and that this isn't it, and that anyone who disagrees must be an obvious moron. Actually, it can be spam and it is spam. Sorry that saying so makes you mad bro.

mb664

Exactly. Frankly I don't even really care if they want to do it, I just want the ability to not see it (a la chesstempo). Or be notified about it.

Really want to track your TT attempts? Use MS Excel, not a public forum that sends notifications to others.

mb664

Well...I think at this point some of them (not all) legitimately don't realize how many people get spammed by their actions, and some of them are copycats who only do it because the behavior has been normalized by everyone else doing it before. They see the threads and assume that's just how you "should" use TT.

But yeah, there's at least a little narcissism in some of the cases. See this thread that actually sent me over here: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/complaint-about-my-comments-on-tactical-trainer

In that thread, the OP initially looked for validation that what they were doing was OK, before realizing that their behavior was dumb and agreeing to stop.