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kindaspongey
Apr 4, 2019
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"... What do you think of [Coach Yourself]? Is it good or not?" - joseph1000000
joseph1000000 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

I have not read the book, but I would guess that it has value for many active chess players. What about someone who is "not even a player" and "using chess to work on concentration" "As well as other purposes"? I would not venture to guess.

Your opinion is valuable to me, regardless. 

I have no opinion on what would suit your purposes.

("... I apply chess learning to life in some way or other. Ofcourse I enjoy the learning too. But I apply it learning to think a few moves ahead. Also, by learning an overview of chess I learn to see the whole board therefore reinforce visualisation. …" - joseph1000000)

Perhaps a good idea for you to go to the Everyman site and try to examine the sample that is currently available there.

I meant your opinion about the book. ...

It does not make sense to me to have an opinion about a book without consideration of the reader. A book can be good for one reader and not good for another.

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CarLazar2
Apr 5, 2019
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#22
FlyingSandal wrote:

I always suggest the person pick one opening and study and learn it - not just the expected moves, but why those moves are played. It doesn't really matter which opening, but I like the Ruy since it's more directly fundamental chess principals.

As far as just getting better, tactics and not hanging pieces is good.

Thanks Sandal, Last few days I'm studying one of the openings and realized that analysis of certain moves and pattern helped me in similar positions. I could see some variety of moves much faster and in which direction to head to;  

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CarLazar2
Apr 5, 2019
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#23
joseph1000000 wrote:

While we are on the subject of coaching yourself, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with all relevant notions in Chess Theory. At least,  as much as possible. You could start with a book about opening,  tactics,  positional chess,  pawn structure.... 

Again order and level of material is your choice. However young or old you are only matters if your reading skill is not good.  Just a note generally speaking. 

Thanks, Joseph I`ve built up the chess book library for next few years. At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. Planning to start same time studying End games/Silman and Pawn structure of Baburin. About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

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joseph1000000
Apr 5, 2019
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#24
sasazastavnikovic wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:

While we are on the subject of coaching yourself, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with all relevant notions in Chess Theory. At least,  as much as possible. You could start with a book about opening,  tactics,  positional chess,  pawn structure.... 

Again order and level of material is your choice. However young or old you are only matters if your reading skill is not good.  Just a note generally speaking. 

Thanks, Joseph I`ve built up the chess book library for next few years. At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. Planning to start same time studying End games/Silman and Pawn structure of Baburin. About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

A. Sakaev  and A. Landau have a 2 volumes book. 

Also A. Soltis Pawn Structure Chess give you strategies. This one I liked a lot. 

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CarLazar2
Apr 5, 2019
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#25
joseph1000000 wrote:
sasazastavnikovic wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:

While we are on the subject of coaching yourself, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with all relevant notions in Chess Theory. At least,  as much as possible. You could start with a book about opening,  tactics,  positional chess,  pawn structure.... 

Again order and level of material is your choice. However young or old you are only matters if your reading skill is not good.  Just a note generally speaking. 

Thanks, Joseph I`ve built up the chess book library for next few years. At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. Planning to start same time studying End games/Silman and Pawn structure of Baburin. About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

A. Sakaev  and A. Landau have a 2 volumes book. 

Also A. Soltis Pawn Structure Chess give you strategies. This one I liked a lot. 

Thanks Joseph, for the first I didn`t hear but I will look for it;  From Soltis, I have Study Chess made easy and I was looking for his The Max Lange attack; 

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joseph1000000
Apr 5, 2019
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#26

The first by Sakaev is called : The complete manual of positional chess... 

I have read the 2nd volume only.  But after reading both(Sakaev  and Soltis ) I would have read the Soltis first then the both of Sakaev's. 

Of course you should be familiar with many of tactics.  That is my assumption anyway. 

Also at least from now  on you might be interested to save any pawn structure that you come up to while playing. Some one else is collecting so far as many as 52 formations. But that is an ongoing excercise so more is coming. 

Look up a summary of Soltis ' book in Wikipedia and follow that lead. You need to work on it hard,  but it will pay out. 

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kindaspongey
Apr 5, 2019
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#27
joseph1000000  wrote:

… A. Sakaev  and A. Landau have a 2 volumes book. ...

"The book is aimed at players who are already around first category strength [Translator's note: Approximately 2000-2200 Elo] but some examples will also be useful to players of a higher standard."

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9049.pdf

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kindaspongey
Apr 5, 2019
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sasazastavnikovic  wrote:

... About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

Maybe consider:

The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)

https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/

Winning Chess by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (1948)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review919.pdf

Simple Chess by Michael Stean
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104258/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review400.pdf

http://store.doverpublications.com/0486424200.html

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joseph1000000
Apr 5, 2019
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#29
kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000  wrote:

… A. Sakaev  and A. Landau have a 2 volumes book. ...

"The book is aimed at players who are already around first category strength [Translator's note: Approximately 2000-2200 Elo] but some examples will also be useful to players of a higher standard."

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9049.pdf

 True. But it is well worth it for active players who want to improve and are capable to handle it. 

Maybe I should say people  who want to improve faster than others and are willing to work hard. 

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kindaspongey
Apr 5, 2019
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#30
"The book is aimed at players who are already around first category strength [Translator's note: Approximately 2000-2200 Elo] but some examples will also be useful to players of a higher standard."
joseph1000000  wrote:

… [Sakaev: The complete manual of positional chess] is well worth it for active players who want to improve and are capable to handle it. 

Maybe I should say people  who want to improve faster than others and are willing to work hard. 

Are you that person who describes himself as "not even a player"?

"... Just because a book contains lots of information that you don’t know, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be extremely helpful in making you better at this point in your chess development. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140626180930/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman06.pdf

"... The books that are most highly thought of are not necessarily the most useful. Go with those that you find to be readable. ..." - GM Nigel Davies (2010)

"... If it’s instruction, you look for an author that addresses players at your level (buying something that’s too advanced won’t help you at all). This means that a classic book that is revered by many people might not be useful for you. ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (2015)

https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-best-chess-books-ever

"... [annotated games are] infinitely more useful than bare game scores. However, annotated games vary widely in quality. Some are excellent study material. Others are poor. But the most numerous fall into a third category - good-but-wrong-for-you. ... You want games with annotations that answer the questions that baffle you the most. ..." - GM Andrew Soltis (2010)

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kindaspongey
Apr 5, 2019
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#31
sasazastavnikovic  wrote:

... At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. ... 

It is a pretty daunting project to try to learn a little bit about a lot of openings. Some of us think that it can be useful to use books like First Steps: 1 e4 e5 and First Steps: Queen's Gambit

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdf

as sources of games with explanations intended for those just starting to learn about an opening.

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joseph1000000
Apr 5, 2019
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#32
kindaspongey wrote:
sasazastavnikovic wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:

While we are on the subject of coaching yourself, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with all relevant notions in Chess Theory. At least,  as much as possible. You could start with a book about opening,  tactics,  positional chess,  pawn structure.... 

Again order and level of material is your choice. However young or old you are only matters if your reading skill is not good.  Just a note generally speaking. 

Thanks, Joseph I`ve built up the chess book library for next few years. At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. Planning to start same time studying End games/Silman and Pawn structure of Baburin. About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

It is a pretty daunting project to try to learn a little bit about a lot of openings. Some of us think that it can be useful to use books like First Steps: 1 e4 e5 and First Steps: Queen's Gambithttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdfhttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdfas sources of games with explanations intended for those just starting to learn about an opening.

 

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messengeroftheGospel
Apr 5, 2019
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#33

Endgame is the most essential.

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joseph1000000
Apr 5, 2019
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#34
kindaspongey wrote:
sasazastavnikovic wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:

While we are on the subject of coaching yourself, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with all relevant notions in Chess Theory. At least,  as much as possible. You could start with a book about opening,  tactics,  positional chess,  pawn structure.... 

Again order and level of material is your choice. However young or old you are only matters if your reading skill is not good.  Just a note generally speaking. 

Thanks, Joseph I`ve built up the chess book library for next few years. At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. Planning to start same time studying End games/Silman and Pawn structure of Baburin. About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

It is a pretty daunting project to try to learn a little bit about a lot of openings. Some of us think that it can be useful to use books like First Steps: 1 e4 e5 and First Steps: Queen's Gambithttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdfhttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdfas sources of games with explanations intended for those just starting to learn about an opening.

kindaspongey:

My friend.  I would have taken you for an ambitious person among other good virtues. Now I wonder. 

Just a few questions:

1. How can you manage so many long responses?

2.Do you have a library of these messages?

3. Most importantly why do you take things so seriously and personaly?

Try to take things a little easy. Have fun.  Don't be too rigid. For god sake. Or for your own sake,  whichever you prefer. Maybe both. 

Can I call you spongie? Call me Joseph anyway. I won't bite promise! Lol

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joseph1000000
Apr 6, 2019
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#35
joseph1000000 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
sasazastavnikovic wrote:
joseph1000000 wrote:

While we are on the subject of coaching yourself, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with all relevant notions in Chess Theory. At least,  as much as possible. You could start with a book about opening,  tactics,  positional chess,  pawn structure.... 

Again order and level of material is your choice. However young or old you are only matters if your reading skill is not good.  Just a note generally speaking. 

Thanks, Joseph I`ve built up the chess book library for next few years. At the moment I`m doing daily puzzles, playing online chess, reading Seirawan Winning openings. To be honest, I didn't know that all of them has some name, main lines and variations. Planning to start same time studying End games/Silman and Pawn structure of Baburin. About tactic/strategy and positional chess haven`t found much to be honest;  

It is a pretty daunting project to try to learn a little bit about a lot of openings. Some of us think that it can be useful to use books like First Steps: 1 e4 e5 and First Steps: Queen's Gambithttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdfhttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdfas sources of games with explanations intended for those just starting to learn about an opening.

 

 

kindaspongey has a very good point about the Sakaev 2nd volume.  But examples come in three level of strengths. So you may want to go through the easy ones only or only two levels or....  You choose what serves you best. 

Book one of Sakaev is a review of what you might already know and most possibly easy.  I have not read it.  Look at the contents see if it is good for you. 

A.  Soltis is back bone of chess which connects opening to endgame.  I believe it will give you a lot of strategies to consider. This should not be the only time you read it nor should it be the only book about pawn structures that you read.

Also you may want to delay going through excercise for the 2nd reading. Again this is a good point that our friend kindaspongey makes.  Choose as you see it appropriate for you. 

 

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kindaspongey
Apr 6, 2019
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#36
joseph1000000  wrote:

… Book one of Sakaev ...  Look at the contents see if it is good for you. ...

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9049.pdf

"The book is aimed at players who are already around first category strength [Translator's note: Approximately 2000-2200 Elo] but some examples will also be useful to players of a higher standard." - Sakaev

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kindaspongey
Apr 6, 2019
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#37
joseph1000000  wrote:

...  I believe [A. Soltis book about pawn structures] will give you a lot of strategies to consider. ...

… you may want to delay going through excercise for the 2nd reading. Again this is a good point that our friend kindaspongey makes. Choose as you see it appropriate for you.

Are you that person who describes himself as "not even a player"? I have not made any point about going through the exercises of the Soltis pawn structure book.

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kindaspongey
Apr 6, 2019
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#38
kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000  wrote:

… Book one of Sakaev ...  Look at the contents see if it is good for you. ...

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9049.pdf

"The book is aimed at players who are already around first category strength [Translator's note: Approximately 2000-2200 Elo] but some examples will also be useful to players of a higher standard." - Sakaev

"Actually, (IMO) TOC of book 1 looks like it covers a good deal of appropriate material. The order of it (ref. excerpt on flexiblity) looks ideal enough as well." - PawnstormPossie

At https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf ,

in addition to the table of contents and the Sakaev introduction, one can see 12 pages of chapter 9, "The piece and pawn centre and the fight against it".

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joseph1000000
Apr 6, 2019
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#39
kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000  wrote:

...  I believe [A. Soltis book about pawn structures] will give you a lot of strategies to consider. ...

… you may want to delay going through excercise for the 2nd reading. Again this is a good point that our friend kindaspongey makes. Choose as you see it appropriate for you.

Are you that person who describes himself as "not even a player"? I have not made any point about going through the exercises of the Soltis pawn structure book.

 

That is your understanding of that post.  I was just giving some credit to you. That credit obviously was not due. 

Point is that you could use the same book for many different level, but that is just me. I try to not be snob that all. 

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joseph1000000
Apr 6, 2019
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kindaspongey wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
joseph1000000  wrote:

… Book one of Sakaev ...  Look at the contents see if it is good for you. ...

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9049.pdf

"The book is aimed at players who are already around first category strength [Translator's note: Approximately 2000-2200 Elo] but some examples will also be useful to players of a higher standard." - Sakaev

"Actually, (IMO) TOC of book 1 looks like it covers a good deal of appropriate material. The order of it (ref. excerpt on flexiblity) looks ideal enough as well." - PawnstormPossie

At https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9040.pdf ,

in addition to the table of contents and the Sakaev introduction, one can see 12 pages of chapter 9, "The piece and pawn centre and the fight against it".

 

I am not sure what your point is?