I beat a person who beat a person who beat a GM. That means I'm good.

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I mean, am I missing something? I beat a person who beat a person who beat a person who beat a grandmaster. That means I am super at chess. It can mean nothing else. If I'm better than someone who is better than someone who is better than someone who is better than a GM, I am WAY up on the totem pole if I must say so myself.

That is all.

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I have a feeling a lot of bad moves were played along that chain.
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urk wrote:
I have a feeling a lot of bad moves were played along that chain.

It's actually a joke.

It's a fallacy that I've heard from club players - attaching extra significance to a win because the person you beat has notched a win against a titled player. "Hey, this person has won against CMs and I just beat him." I think it's ridiculous to attach any extra significance to such a win and was mocking those that do so.

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I know its a joke- and I like the intent

but  I'm curious

 

did you really

"beat someone, who beat someone, who someone, who beat a gm"?

 

and maybe... maybe I could figure out a chain too?  no one has mentioned ages or anything.

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If the transitive property applied here, you'd immediately be a GM too. I'm a GM (Good Mathematician), but not so much a good chess player.

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I dare you to beat a GM

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how do you get old crosstabs?

 

for example take the 1956 rosenwald chess tournament.  early in fischer's career; he was strong but not yet invincible,

I am thinking I could reconstruct a chain from these players.

 

but I don't have many hooks; my OTB wins to use.  so perhaps not.

 

anyways the given tournament was referenced in a chess.com blog

https://www.chess.com/blog/BobbyFischersPhotos/third-rosenwald-1956---nailbiting-bobby

give it a read, its interesting

 

actually, this is pretty tricky and not as easy as I thought. (for me).

 

because I'm tight with a small club- these guys (mostly) haven't played in the bigger events- and often when they did they lost.

hmm.

 

perhaps a more reasonable rating- makes this easier;  I could imagine a 2000 having a win or two against a master- who has a win against a teenaged future gm.

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It is easy to retrace most best wins to Hikaru (in blitz and bullet). He's betten Carlsen so you can retrace your best result to Carlsen

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Darn doesn't work for me in blitz, used to though

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All of us here probably beat someone who beat someone .... so on and so forth ... who beat someone who beat Magnus Carlsen.

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And it's probably not that distance.  Maybe like we all beat someone who beat someone who beat someone who beat Magnus.

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Rosenbalm wrote:

I mean, am I missing something? I beat a person who beat a person who beat a person who beat a grandmaster. That means I am super at chess. It can mean nothing else. If I'm better than someone who is better than someone who is better than someone who is better than a GM, I am WAY up on the totem pole if I must say so myself.

That is all.

Then that means im better than Karpov.  

<eye roll>

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Online, COP,you have the following path:

 

you 1689

YuriSenkevich 1950

Archimed  2048

IM cabablista  2344

IM keranka 2605  who has beat

Hikaru 2928; who has beat the WC in both blitz and OTB standard

 

congrats.  nearly as strong as MC.  : respect

 

diakona- you are stronger than Karpov?  really?  whats your lineage??

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That's nothing. I lost to Ian Rogers with an opening line that he had lost to Kasparov with.

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Hey, in which game the person won against gm? Blitz? Rapid ? Classical?

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I lost to Carlsen in a simul. Carlsen beat Anand. -->  I guess I am not worse than Anand.

Finally it pays off that I took that Logic 101 class...

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thegreat_patzer wrote:

Online, COP,you have the following path:

 

you 1689

YuriSenkevich 1950

Archimed  2048

IM cabablista  2344

IM keranka 2605  who has beat

Hikaru 2928; who has beat the WC in both blitz and OTB standard

 

congrats.  nearly as strong as MC.  : respect

 

diakona- you are stronger than Karpov?  really?  whats your lineage??

I beat a GM in a simul that beat Karpov.  I mean that still counts right :-)

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perfect! cool.  you sir are awesome!  I will have to work on mine.

 

:curious.   I was just talking about simuls in another thread.  do strong gms still play them?  do you have to be in NYC or St Louis to get in one. or. occasionally is there simuls other places??

 

I have no idea if the "continental chess" folks arrange simuls- but I understand their 'open' tournaments are huge

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good job

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Me tool But no, it doesn't mean I'm good.

I will make vague claims to adequacy.