I challenge chess.com to a best of 7 match. Score is now 1-0

Of course he deserves to be kicked like trash. Were you here from the start, did you read his testimony as to what he's done? How can the community have become so complacent as that he's now just a normal part of the furniture - an avowed cheater, unrepentant, vitrolic, misanthropic?? Whatever...

I'm done posting about this. Feel whatever you want - but if you find yourself defending a troll/chess cheater - well, I wonder why.

Let's give him a 2nd match!!!

ADK

We already beat him. Should've happened the first time.

 Why, ADK, my friend?

Oh, and what you mean to say is - let's give his computer a second match... becuause, of course, it is not him playing... 

It's just see if we can defeat him a second time! 

ADK

I like how all of you guys are ripping on cheater, and post more in his thread than he does. 

He does have a few good points though:

1. We barely won the first game.

2. If there's a second game, don't play if you don't want to.

 Obviously, you can't.

(Ugh... it irks me that people still reduce to Hitler.)

 It's a bit ironic that you claim we “let our personal feelings get in the way,” and then use the Hitler argument (which is only emotionally appealing), to try to “reason” with us.

Look, you had your match, and you lost. Now do us a favor and move the whinefest someplace else.

The great state of Hondoham nominates  "Lil Chess Partner" to play on behalf of Chess.com

If cheater_1 wasn't an avid flip flopper I wouldn't mind him so much...

paraphrasing for a bit here

1. You beat me
2. You bullied me to resign
3.  I ran simulations and I lost more often than erik said
4. I'm the best at interpretting a program
5. I'm just testing my program
6. I was no holds barred in our match (infiltration, fake accounts voting etc)
7. I didn't think it was the right move but I wanted to see if my program could see something I couldn't

Cheater_1 changes his story so often that his posts are constantly able to claim some form of victory.  If we give him a match he manipulated us into it.  If we don't we have sunk to his level and he manipulated us. 

Cheater_1 reminds me of a kid at the moment that lost got upset, says it wasn't fair, wants a rematch, and is doing everything he can to egg us into it.  And much like the kid that gets refused because he is getting too upset and needs to spend awhile in time out - cheater_1 is now claiming a match is not being set up out of fear of him.  'You were only able to beat me that time cause I went easy on you, you could never do it again!'  says the spoiled brat.  Now lets look at some possible outcomes.

The brat is not appeased and no rematch happens -> the brat lies to himself claiming some form of perverted victory.  The I challenged you and you didn't accept thats the same as a forfeit arguement.  Well let it be known that I have an open challenge to play any NBA all star to a best of of 3 match consisting of 26 game series of 1 on 1 games.  If they do not accept my challenge they agree that I am the best basketball player in the world.

Or perhaps the brat is appeased... but loses.  More tantrums result.  More accusations... more excuses... more need for a rematch.  Deny deny deny.  More prodding, the 'You beat me twice lets see you do it again arguement'  this is one of my personal favourites it allows someone who is out matched to keep requesting rematches against a stronger opponent until the opponent is TIRED OF WINNING at which point the loser claims some sort of perverted victory.

Or perhaps the brat is appeased and wins.  The past is forgotten.  The first instance doesn't count.  This last match is the only one that matters.  I am the best I am the best!  You've all heard that annoying kid gloating that you just want to smack in the head with a shovel... you haven't ever felt that way? oh well in that case maybe I'll put the shovel down.

Cheater_1 - you are doing a very good job of redefining reality to suit your purposes why don't you just imagine you got a rematch and won?

 “Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

If you can stop with the flip flopping and the defining reality you might find that more people would be willing to play with you.  As it is you remind me of a life coach I used to work for's son... we would create a new game together it would be fun for awhile, until he kept changing the rules to fit whatever action he just did.  The rules lacked symetry.  After trying to explain that you can't do that and being ignored I told him I didn't want to play with him anymore.  Such behaviour is best to be grown out of as soon as possible.  I'd hate to think of that boy growing up to be you.

Guys, I hate saying it, but you are adding fuel to the fire.  If you ban him, you will make his day.  That means he got exactly what he asked for - literally.  He is acting provocatively.  As a matter of fact, really, if you have an inner need to answer him, that is fine.  But it is like the bully who taunts the kid on the playground with words - most of the time, they are full of hot air.

I didn't mind the comments about us being whatever, or anything to rile up the game.  But to make comments assuming that he is the spice to this site, that is bologna.  People have paid for this site LONG before he came along.  I enjoyed reading his comments until then.  They were thought-provoking (whether or not I agreed with his philosophy, I hate cheating and I hate using computers for analysis, and I definetely do not trash talk my opposition - I respect them) up until then.  That was too confident, and was not to my taste. 

Now, if he decided for some reason to confront what I say, that wouldn't matter to me.  People mouth a lot. 

If you don't like him, ignore his comments.  But Rael, you have gained my respect with your thoughtful comments concerning chess.com as a whole, and not just about yourself - you are a quality person and thinker. 

Erik will get the final say, and I believe, regardless of what kind of character he is, cheater should get a match if enough people want it.  If erik gives him a week to get, let's say, 100 people who commit to the match, then it is in the interest of enough people who pay for chess.com.  I know, I don't yet pay for the site - I am actually waiting on my next paycheck :-). 

But, there are good points on all sides.  Does chess.com want to be a site that condones any form of cheating?  That is a question we should ask before we step forward in this.

Cheater, if Satan asked for a match, I would refuse him in a heartbeat.  I don't like him.  But if you like playing with the devil, you will get burned in the end.

Power is when we have every justification to kill, and we don't.
-Oskar Schindler

Has there anyone been personally harrassed by cheater_1, or is everybody bored of him because he revealed his true identity. I don't know why everybody wants him banned so much, I don't agree with most of his posts but they are amusing and obviously I'm not the only one.
Cheater_1 contributes to chess.com in his own way that some people can't apreciate.

ps. I think a rematch is nonsense, the game is played. If after some time there is some new improved program it might be worthwhile.