I find 'win quick' gambits disgusting

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chamo2074
Chessflyfisher a écrit :

Gambits are simply insulting to one`s opponents. My club has run tournaments forbidding gambits. In fact, purposeful pawn sacrifices in those events cannot be played until the 10th move. It seems a bit harsh but if you don`t like these restrictions, don`t play. One of my members loves to play gambits from both sides. He obviously does not play in those non gambit events (and he`s a strong USCF Expert!).

Meaning that they can't play the queen's gambit? Or they can because the queens is not a real gambit, btw I play gambits to chizzle my opponent, not because he is bad, I dont care about him

PILOTOXOMXD

The reasons I play Gambits and sacs, like the Fried Liver, is because it is psychologically aggressive. It intimidates your opponents, so they play more defensive moves. The moves that look defensive, are often most studied, so you can easily beat their defenses  

NikkiLikeChikki
So you can’t play the QGD in that tournament?
PILOTOXOMXD
chamo2074 wrote:
Chessflyfisher a écrit :

Gambits are simply insulting to one`s opponents. My club has run tournaments forbidding gambits. In fact, purposeful pawn sacrifices in those events cannot be played until the 10th move. It seems a bit harsh but if you don`t like these restrictions, don`t play. One of my members loves to play gambits from both sides. He obviously does not play in those non gambit events (and he`s a strong USCF Expert!).

Meaning that they can't play the queen's gambit? Or they can because the queens is not a real gambit, btw I play gambits to chizzle my opponent, not because he is bad, I dont care about him

The QG is solid. Really solid. But in essence, its a pawn trade on c4.

NikkiLikeChikki
Pawn trade? I mean not all lines lead to reacapturing the pawn immediately. Whenever I play a gambit, I always intend to get my pawn back, with interest.

So the criterion is what? Soundness? Number of moves until recapture? Or are we just giving a get out of jail free card for the QG?

What an asinine rule. I definitely wouldn’t play in that tournament.
PILOTOXOMXD

The QG is amazing, but you need theory. It is solid, but most gambits don't involve a recapture

PILOTOXOMXD

The Scotch Gambit is only recaptured if they waste moves trying to prevent attacks. 

Its trying to prevent Ng5. Even Grischuck played Ng5 when h6 wasn't played. However, this hinders Black's development, and White can recapture up a piece in development.

PILOTOXOMXD

I get this a lot. I just castle as white here

Strangemover

4.h6 is an utter waste of a move for black, 5.Ng5 need not be prevented, just reply to it with d5. 

PILOTOXOMXD

There's also no good moves here, unless you know the Bc5 a6 line

PILOTOXOMXD

There are many tricks here. Psychology is also impacted when playing super aggressive, like this

NikkiLikeChikki
But the point is that you CAN recapture. If you recapture, it’s not a gambit, it’s a trade.

It’s a bad trade, for sure, but it’s still a trade. Is this tournament going to forbid bad trades before move 10 too?
PILOTOXOMXD

What tourney? Its not a bad trade, just a trade. U also get Ur bishop more active

grymsailor

They are disgusting! I use them all of the time. I may even bathe once in a while.

Richard_Hunter

Hard to believe Nikkilihichikki is still hammering away at this. 

Richard_Hunter
Chessflyfisher wrote:

Gambits are simply insulting to one`s opponents. My club has run tournaments forbidding gambits. In fact, purposeful pawn sacrifices in those events cannot be played until the 10th move. It seems a bit harsh but if you don`t like these restrictions, don`t play. One of my members loves to play gambits from both sides. He obviously does not play in those non gambit events (and he`s a strong USCF Expert!).

Yeah, why not? Makes a lot of sense. And anyone who doesn't like it can simply not complain about it.

Richard_Hunter
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:

The reasons I play Gambits and sacs, like the Fried Liver, is because it is psychologically aggressive. It intimidates your opponents, so they play more defensive moves. The moves that look defensive, are often most studied, so you can easily beat their defenses  

After encountering it a few times, the Fried Liver really isn't intimidating at all. In fact I often play 3. Nf6 to deliberately provoke it. That's the issue: if you continue to find the FL attack effective, it probably means that you aren't actually making any progress yourself in Chess.

CrockPotLion

Ain't no such tournament. Check the name? Guy's just trolling for attention. Or if they do... What if somebody plays QG? Do they get banned on move 3?!

sndeww
Richard_Hunter wrote:
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:

The reasons I play Gambits and sacs, like the Fried Liver, is because it is psychologically aggressive. It intimidates your opponents, so they play more defensive moves. The moves that look defensive, are often most studied, so you can easily beat their defenses  

After encountering it a few times, the Fried Liver really isn't intimidating at all. In fact I often play 3. Nf6 to deliberately provoke it. That's the issue: if you continue to find the FL attack effective, it probably means that you aren't actually making any progress yourself in Chess.

I dunno. Fried liver scores over 60% in GM games... for white.

PILOTOXOMXD
Richard_Hunter wrote:
Chessflyfisher wrote:

Gambits are simply insulting to one`s opponents. My club has run tournaments forbidding gambits. In fact, purposeful pawn sacrifices in those events cannot be played until the 10th move. It seems a bit harsh but if you don`t like these restrictions, don`t play. One of my members loves to play gambits from both sides. He obviously does not play in those non gambit events (and he`s a strong USCF Expert!).

Yeah, why not? Makes a lot of sense. And anyone who doesn't like it can simply not complain about it.

Then why were you complaining about gambits?

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