I hate this new puzzle system.

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I had just come to terms with chess.com choosing the same day I hit 2900 puzzles for changing the entire rating system, forever robbing me of the milestone.

I’d come to terms with the sudden dip on the rating graph ruining my stats.

What I’m frustrated about is how much worse the disparity between correct and incorrect puzzle scores now is and what it means for players who like to train daily.

For instance, I’m a little poorly currently (it’s October, what can you do) and still wanted to be disciplined and do some puzzles. Started off well enough, but gaining +2 per puzzle is slow progress indeed. When I got the final move of a sequence wrong and lost -13, I rushed the next one out of frustration and got it wrong as well. And then two more. That’s -52 in four puzzles, a stat that will take TWENTY SIX CORRECT PUZZLES IN A ROW TO BREAK EVEN.

I’m on an old-style gold membership. I get 25 puzzles a day. I will have to spend my entire puzzle allowance tomorrow and get a perfect score to gain what I lost in 30 seconds of slight headache-induced poor calculation. This system sucks.
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Why do you care what the number is? It was stupidly overrated in the first place. Hey, I'm 1100 on chess.com. and my max puzzle was 2551. That's absurd. Besides, the goal of doing puzzles is to improve your chess, not some silly number. And 26 correct in a row is nothing to sneeze at!! That's the focus I'm going with now. I've changed the difficulty level to Standard instead of Hard so that the puzzles I'll get are more in keeping with my skill level, and I'm going to work on streaks, not numbers.

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Streaks are great, don’t get me wrong, but I’m simply saying it’s a little disheartening that at my level (not trying to toot my own horn or anything but the 1900-2000 rapid is quite elusive to a lot of people) where I’m getting literally 2 points per correct puzzle no matter what the rating of the puzzle, even getting the last move in a sequence wrong (yknow when it says 4/5 or smth like that) tanks my rating. It just means if I DO care about the rating I need to only do puzzles when I’m feeling well, which defeats the purpose of a training tool 🤷‍♂️
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Change the difficulty to extra hard. You'll get more rating per puzzle (around 6-8), less lost rating if you get it wrong, and you'll have a harder puzzle to work out.

Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry

Oo an extra hard mode? Sounds good - thanks for the suggestion

Avatar of DreamscapeHorizons

Yeah, they're not all +2. I've got mine set to normal or medium or whatever and I'm getting an average of +4 but the wrong ones are brutal, something like -20 or so. But it depends on the puzzles, they're not all the same gains or losses. The ones I lost a lot on I deserved to lose a lot because they were easy & I should've got em right.

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DreamscapeHorizons wrote:

Yeah, they're not all +2. I've got mine set to normal or medium or whatever and I'm getting an average of +4 but the wrong ones are brutal, something like -20 or so. But it depends on the puzzles, they're not all the same gains or losses. The ones I lost a lot on I deserved to lose a lot because they were easy & I should've got em right.

-20 should be extremely rare since the change, regardless of difficulty setting, unless you're still overrated.

Avatar of TransceiverTactics

I am only 1300ish and my puzzle rating was 2000+ now it's 1500+ more tuned to rating, this new system is amazing!

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Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry
theeldest1 wrote:

Change the difficulty to extra hard. You'll get more rating per puzzle (around 6-8), less lost rating if you get it wrong, and you'll have a harder puzzle to work out.

Thank you - this has helped a lot!

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DoYouLikeCurry hat geschrieben:
I had just come to terms with chess.com choosing the same day I hit 2900 puzzles for changing the entire rating system, forever robbing me of the milestone.
I’d come to terms with the sudden dip on the rating graph ruining my stats.
What I’m frustrated about is how much worse the disparity between correct and incorrect puzzle scores now is and what it means for players who like to train daily.
For instance, I’m a little poorly currently (it’s October, what can you do) and still wanted to be disciplined and do some puzzles. Started off well enough, but gaining +2 per puzzle is slow progress indeed. When I got the final move of a sequence wrong and lost -13, I rushed the next one out of frustration and got it wrong as well. And then two more. That’s -52 in four puzzles, a stat that will take TWENTY SIX CORRECT PUZZLES IN A ROW TO BREAK EVEN.
I’m on an old-style gold membership. I get 25 puzzles a day. I will have to spend my entire puzzle allowance tomorrow and get a perfect score to gain what I lost in 30 seconds of slight headache-induced poor calculation. This system sucks.

Mine went from 3500 to 2000, someone i know lost 2000 points, from 3500 to 1500 which is crazy

Avatar of NiklasSchach0

I can only agree I woke up one morning and had 1000 points less and my 200 streak was gone

Avatar of echec1968

I am a beginner and have only been doing puzzles regularly for six months.

The method described by the author of this thread is the one I have known since the beginning.

I haven't lost points, I've gained a few.
It seems that those whose ratings have dropped have benefited from favorable conditions and that the new system is rebalancing their scores.

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dammmmmmmn

Avatar of YashAhirwar

Everyone have different opinions but I think that this new puzzle system is better

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YashAhirwar hat geschrieben:

Everyone have different opinions but I think that this new puzzle system is better

Why is that? bring facts

Avatar of TomlopG
It’s an arbitrary scale. You are being weighed in kg instead of pounds. The number has changed but you weigh the same.

My best rating was about 2960, now 1600. Both are absurd as I am still floundering in three figures for Rapid 😆
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Weirdgerman wrote:
YashAhirwar hat geschrieben:

Everyone have different opinions but I think that this new puzzle system is better

Why is that? bring facts

For me, old system just wouldn't give challenging problems. I thought If I climb in rating, eventually problems would get I fun and challenging. So I got my rating to 4.5k, yet It kept giving me trivial problems so I lost motivation and just quit doing puzzles here.
New system is more concistent in giving you challenge based on your rating level, and 2500 puzzles are already very challenging. At least I find puzzles fun again after a long time

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Magician hat geschrieben:
Weirdgerman wrote:
YashAhirwar hat geschrieben:

Everyone have different opinions but I think that this new puzzle system is better

Why is that? bring facts

For me, old system just wouldn't give challenging problems. I thought If I climb in rating, eventually problems would get I fun and challenging. So I got my rating to 4.5k, yet It kept giving me trivial problems so I lost motivation and just quit doing puzzles here.
New system is more concistent in giving you challenge based on your rating level, and 2500 puzzles are already very challenging. At least I find puzzles fun again after a long time

I think the puzzles themselves have gotten better, but the rating is my problem

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

The puzzles and puzzle selection algorithm are the same bas they have been since the Difficulty setting was initially released a few months ago.