I smash 1400+ players, I got rekt by 1100-1300 players: Smurfs and Sandbaggers

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SmurfOnSteroids
Lorgish wrote:

@edwardKingsolomon

Chess.com analysis is trash unless you pay for premium, that's where you got this nutty idea.

 I'd still like to see a screenshot of 17 blunders from the game I linked in this thread.

SmurfOnSteroids

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

Alltheusernamestaken
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

congrandolor

I am 1350 in chess.com blitz rating. 1500/1600 in ....com blitz, around 1700 in 15 minutes games. Eventually I handled to beat or draw some 2000 guys on online tournaments, but also lost many games against 1200 guys. It´s just life, relax, learn from your mistakes and enjoy the game.

tipish

Preggo_Basashi wrote:

And of course also... players have good and bad games. Sometimes a guy will play the game of his life, or just get lucky and guess very good moves.

 

So it's hard to know how much they see.

 

I also play anonymously on other sites (so it's always unrated). Sometimes I can tell right away my opponent is much lower rated than me, but I struggle because I assume the good moves they're making are intentional, or that they're seeing everything I see.

Sometimes you have to know how to pressure your opponent. Go ahead and take small risks that change the character of the position, or force them to calculate. Then suddenly the lucky moves stop, and the bad decisions start coming.

we might have played anonymously. ...

SmurfOnSteroids
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

 But he didn't, because he's 1350, which is the whole point of this thread.

Analysis on stockfish shows that my queen sac was a sound play, rated as an "excellent move" and far beyond 1350 rated play. There was only one move in that entire game where he was winning, otherwise the game was in my favor the whole time (he failed to exploit my "mistake")

Whenever I'm lucky enough to face an opponent in the 1300-1400 range I don't lose. It's the -10/-12 losses to 1100-1200 rated sandbaggers that are killing me.

Alltheusernamestaken
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

 But he didn't, because he's 1350, which is the whole point of this thread.

Analysis on stockfish shows that my queen sac was a sound play, rated as an "excellent move" and far beyond 1350 rated play. There was only one move in that entire game where he was winning, otherwise the game was in my favor the whole time (he failed to exploit my "mistake")

Whenever I'm lucky enough to face an opponent in the 1300-1400 range I don't lose. It's the -10/-12 losses to 1100-1200 rated sandbaggers that are killing me.

Excellent move!?!? It's a blunder, just watch the move 26, you played 26.a4! allowing black to trap your queen

Lorgish

Yeah he's using chess.com quick or shall I say "Quip" analysis.

forked_again

I hate losing too.  It reflects poorly on my awesome skills.  

SmurfOnSteroids
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

 But he didn't, because he's 1350, which is the whole point of this thread.

Analysis on stockfish shows that my queen sac was a sound play, rated as an "excellent move" and far beyond 1350 rated play. There was only one move in that entire game where he was winning, otherwise the game was in my favor the whole time (he failed to exploit my "mistake")

Whenever I'm lucky enough to face an opponent in the 1300-1400 range I don't lose. It's the -10/-12 losses to 1100-1200 rated sandbaggers that are killing me.

Excellent move!?!? It's a blunder, just watch the move 26, you played 26.a4! allowing black to trap your queen


What are you talking about? It doesn't matter if he traps the queens at that point, I'm absolutely winning with a +3 point advantage. There's no stopping that pawn promotion, I'm guaranteed to get my queen back.

 

Please post the line you have in mind after 26. a4 that allows black to prevent my a-pawn from promotion.

Alltheusernamestaken
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

 But he didn't, because he's 1350, which is the whole point of this thread.

Analysis on stockfish shows that my queen sac was a sound play, rated as an "excellent move" and far beyond 1350 rated play. There was only one move in that entire game where he was winning, otherwise the game was in my favor the whole time (he failed to exploit my "mistake")

Whenever I'm lucky enough to face an opponent in the 1300-1400 range I don't lose. It's the -10/-12 losses to 1100-1200 rated sandbaggers that are killing me.

Excellent move!?!? It's a blunder, just watch the move 26, you played 26.a4! allowing black to trap your queen


What are you talking about? It doesn't matter if he traps the queens at that point, I'm absolutely winning with a +3 point advantage. There's no stopping that pawn promotion, I'm guaranteed to get my queen back.

 

Please post the line you have in mind after 26. a4 that allows black to prevent my a-pawn from promotion.

wanna play a best of 3?

SmurfOnSteroids
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

 But he didn't, because he's 1350, which is the whole point of this thread.

Analysis on stockfish shows that my queen sac was a sound play, rated as an "excellent move" and far beyond 1350 rated play. There was only one move in that entire game where he was winning, otherwise the game was in my favor the whole time (he failed to exploit my "mistake")

Whenever I'm lucky enough to face an opponent in the 1300-1400 range I don't lose. It's the -10/-12 losses to 1100-1200 rated sandbaggers that are killing me.

Excellent move!?!? It's a blunder, just watch the move 26, you played 26.a4! allowing black to trap your queen


What are you talking about? It doesn't matter if he traps the queens at that point, I'm absolutely winning with a +3 point advantage. There's no stopping that pawn promotion, I'm guaranteed to get my queen back.

 

Please post the line you have in mind after 26. a4 that allows black to prevent my a-pawn from promotion.

wanna play a best of 3?

yes

Alltheusernamestaken
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Again another game (my latest game) where I tear through a 1300+ player. I even did a strategic queen sac on move 27 to line up my rooks for the pawn promotion. This 1350 rated player didn't play half as well as the 1200's I faced earlier and represents the common level of a 1350 player.

Whenever I see a 1300-1400 player I breathe easy and relax knowing that I'm going have an easy game. This is very strange.

this

https://www.chess.com/live/game/2982256526

'strategic queen sac' hahahah it was trapped and he could have captured it on move 23 too with rook a8

 But he didn't, because he's 1350, which is the whole point of this thread.

Analysis on stockfish shows that my queen sac was a sound play, rated as an "excellent move" and far beyond 1350 rated play. There was only one move in that entire game where he was winning, otherwise the game was in my favor the whole time (he failed to exploit my "mistake")

Whenever I'm lucky enough to face an opponent in the 1300-1400 range I don't lose. It's the -10/-12 losses to 1100-1200 rated sandbaggers that are killing me.

Excellent move!?!? It's a blunder, just watch the move 26, you played 26.a4! allowing black to trap your queen


What are you talking about? It doesn't matter if he traps the queens at that point, I'm absolutely winning with a +3 point advantage. There's no stopping that pawn promotion, I'm guaranteed to get my queen back.

 

Please post the line you have in mind after 26. a4 that allows black to prevent my a-pawn from promotion.

wanna play a best of 3?

yes

accept

SmurfOnSteroids

Btw Stockfish 9 is showing me with a +4.3 advantage after 26. a4! and 27 Qb1 (stockfish 9 prefers 27 Qb5, but since I played 27 Qb1 that's the line I'll continue with and show you it's still winning for white and very dangerous for black)

I'm going to show you Stockfish 9's continuation:

 

 

Alltheusernamestaken
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Btw Stockfish 9 is showing me with a +4.3 advantage after 26. a4! and 27 Qb1 (stockfish 9 prefers 27 Qb5, but since I played 27 Qb1 that's the line I'll continue with and show you it's still winning for white and very dangerous for black)

I'm going to show you Stockfish 9's continuation:

 

 

why you dont accept the match

SmurfOnSteroids
Alltheusernamestaken wrote:
EdwardKingSolomon wrote:

Btw Stockfish 9 is showing me with a +4.3 advantage after 26. a4! and 27 Qb1 (stockfish 9 prefers 27 Qb5, but since I played 27 Qb1 that's the line I'll continue with and show you it's still winning for white and very dangerous for black)

I'm going to show you Stockfish 9's continuation:

 

 

why you dont accept the match

 Where do I accept?

JuergenWerner

Is this a cheating thread??? It sounds like it...

lampcord

The way the rating system here works, the fewer games you've played the more impact it has. So I guess when I started they put me at 1495 (not sure why). Then I lost my first game and dropped 671 points to 824. So it probably looked like I was sandbagging after that but actually I just got beat and since it was my first game they made a huge adjustment. So maybe you played players like me who had artificially low scores because of one early bad result.

 

Anyway, eventually you reach your level and get good competitive games. But I haven't seen any signs of sandbagging so far. Just a different ranking system than I'm used to.

TheRealGMBobbyFish

This is telling:

Won1287
Lost1330
Draw1324
* Average for last 90 days
 
 
So you win against weaker opponents and lose against stronger opponents.  This is the way ratings work.
lampcord
Exactly. And at the end of the day you are what your rating says you are. And if you want that number to go up, you improve.
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