I think the WCM title should not be given out anymore

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Mazetoskylo
tygxc wrote:

This is a new requirement (=after 2018) for direct titles which are awarded at certain events. Previously no minimum rating was required. One can still get the WCM title at the Chess Olympiad without a rating requirement.

For normal acquirement of the title, see article 1.3.4 in your link (minimum rating 2000).

tygxc

@68

You are right, my bad.
WCM = 2000

premio53
Luke-Jaywalker wrote:

FIDE we have a problem.

some blokes on a website disagree with your title requirements.

better do something about it, pronto.

Yes we do have a problem. A whole generation it seems believes titles should be given out whether they are earned or not. Let's cheapen the titles that a lot of people have worked hard for and make those titles nothing more than a joke.

“You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy.”

― Charles Manson

Mazetoskylo
premio53 wrote:
Luke-Jaywalker wrote:

FIDE we have a problem.

some blokes on a website disagree with your title requirements.

better do something about it, pronto.

Yes we do have a problem. A whole generation it seems believes titles should be given out whether they are earned or not. Let's cheapen the titles that a lot of people have worked hard for and make those titles nothing more than a joke.

“You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy.”

― Charles Manson

FIDE does have certain requirements which need to be met to award a title. If you don't like the requirements, then... well, nobody cares.

If you are worth of a title, just go and show it on the board. Else, you are just a growler.

nov04-inactive

I agree with OP. FIDE changed the starting rating to 1400, so getting WCM is sooo easy right now

spideypowers
chesssblackbelt wrote:
sawdof wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

No WCM is lower than 1500 on chess.com so this isn't true.

So confident

@michou228

OMG ok I'm sorry everyone I was wrong

haha lol

spideypowers
nov04-inactive wrote:

I agree with OP. FIDE changed the starting rating to 1400, so getting WCM is sooo easy right now

true...

Mazetoskylo
nov04-inactive wrote:

I agree with OP. FIDE changed the starting rating to 1400, so getting WCM is sooo easy right now

And- guess what: A previous rating of 2000, which was necesssary to get the title, has changed to... 2000. Only lower ratings were affected by the change.

Now it does sound easy, right? tongue.png

Vonbishoffen

Only GM title should exist. Every other title is just ego boost

premio53
Mazetoskylo wrote:
premio53 wrote:
Luke-Jaywalker wrote:

FIDE we have a problem.

some blokes on a website disagree with your title requirements.

better do something about it, pronto.

Yes we do have a problem. A whole generation it seems believes titles should be given out whether they are earned or not. Let's cheapen the titles that a lot of people have worked hard for and make those titles nothing more than a joke.

“You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy.”

― Charles Manson

FIDE does have certain requirements which need to be met to award a title. If you don't like the requirements, then... well, nobody cares.

If you are worth of a title, just go and show it on the board. Else, you are just a growler.

That's what the problem is. Many are given the titles without earning them. Its like putting lipstick on a pig. Its still a pig.

nov04-inactive
Mazetoskylo wrote:
nov04-inactive wrote:

I agree with OP. FIDE changed the starting rating to 1400, so getting WCM is sooo easy right now

And- guess what: A previous rating of 2000, which was necesssary to get the title, has changed to... 2000. Only lower ratings were affected by the change.

Now it does sound easy, right?

what title?

Battle_of_Ideas

they should get rid of all woman titles.

continuedkrombopulos22

I don't understand why chess has to be separated by gender in the first place???

dsanchez1973
chesssblackbelt wrote:

You all underestimate how hard 2000 fide is. It's way harder than chess.com. You need to be at least 2300 on chess.com.

Well I can asset this definitely isn't true grin.png

Velocity

@48 I have a FIDE rating of 1623, and I can send you a WCM with a fide of 1500 on her profile. I'll get that now

Velocity

chess.com/member/lularobs

Jenium
Pearhurst wrote:

chess.com/member/lularobs

FIDE has this thing that they give out titles for "achievements" rather than for rating. So according to her bio she got her WCM title not by hitting 2000 but by having a good performance at the Olympiad. It's quite common. Alex Botez, for example, is a WFM despite never hitting 2100.

MariasWhiteKnight

Women can already gain men titles if they want to. I dont see whats the problem to motivate them with special women only titles as well.

dsanchez1973
llama_l wrote:
dsanchez1973 wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

You all underestimate how hard 2000 fide is. It's way harder than chess.com. You need to be at least 2300 on chess.com.

Well I can asset this definitely isn't true

Your blitz rating is something like the bottom 5% of NMs though. I looked at your games expecting you to be moving really slowly, but you don't do that. Maybe some people are just bad at blitz? shrug*

Or I guess... one of those people who got the master title many years ago and then took a long break from chess.

If someone is actively >2200 OTB, active in online blitz, and under the age of, IDK, 40, then I'd expect their blitz to be 2400 at least, and has high as 2600-2700.

I think I hit just about every one of your points - no longer <40, got the master title many years ago then took a long break, and kind of just not that good at blitz anymore anyways happy.png

I proudly wear my bottom 5% badge.

robo008
Bro put it as his status