if mikhail tal alive again ,is he able to snach the world crown from wcc carlsen?

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macer75
deathstalker666 wrote:
sandynegi пишет:

both players mastered this game .I always admire these two dynamic wcc's to have match between them

magnus is the best chessman ever born on earth!

Try telling that to Kasparov.

ANOK1

yes cos id nick it from that pretenders head and place it on its rightful bonce that of the greatest chess player ever (in the whole universes opinion) Tal

AntonioEsfandiari

If Tal was alive today he would be too busy playing crazyhouse to care about regular chess anymore grin.png

HorribleTomato

No, but a tin can.

macer75
DamonevicSmithlov wrote:

Umm, nope. Magnus would beat Tal like a runaway slave.

Surprised

NeilBerm

I understand that Tal was very imaginative and had some of the most fun games. However, even during the time when he was at his peak and won the championship he never had anything close to the dominance that Fischer and Kasparov had over the other top players of the time. Magnus and some of the other champions were better when it came down to wins and losses against the top players (not just who had the prettiest games). I would definitely pick Magnus if he played Tal.

HorribleTomato
TheTacticianMagician wrote:

Tal actually has the longest and second longest unbeaten streaks in history.

Ca-Pa-Blan-Ca

 

Need I say more?

MickinMD

If given a year or two to absorb today's knowledge, training, etc. Fischer, Tal, Alekhine, Keres, Capablanca, Lasker, etc. would very likely be among the top players today. Fischer would probably dominate at his peak, as he smashed every opponent in his last few years of serious play. He beat 2731 rated Taimanov 6-0 in the 1971 Candidates Quarter Finals, he beat 2752 rated Larsen 6-0 in the Semi Finals and, while ill, beat the previous World Champ Petrosian, rated 2738, 5W, 3D, 1L in the Finals.  Fisher's one-year peak rating of 2881 is still the highest of all time.  He toyed with Spassky in the World Championship Match in 1972.

By the way, in the 1976 U.S. Open in Fairfax, VA, I drew in the 2nd round with a guy who had beaten Petrosian in a simultaneous exhibition.  My performance claim to fame!  GM Leonid Shamkovich watched while I made several key moves of one of my OTB tournament games, but my opponent was a very pretty woman with a low-cut dress, so I don't think he was paying much attention to my skills!

BronsteinPawn

Woman that play chess? That is almost as good as having a woman that does gymnastics.

BronsteinPawn

Unless you are talking about steroid users like Simone Biles...

macer75
MickinMD wrote:

If given a year or two to absorb today's knowledge, training, etc. Fischer, Tal, Alekhine, Keres, Capablanca, Lasker, etc. would very likely be among the top players today. Fischer would probably dominate at his peak, as he smashed every opponent in his last few years of serious play. He beat 2731 rated Taimanov 6-0 in the 1971 Candidates Quarter Finals, he beat 2752 rated Larsen 6-0 in the Semi Finals and, while ill, beat the previous World Champ Petrosian, rated 2738, 5W, 3D, 1L in the Finals.  Fisher's one-year peak rating of 2881 is still the highest of all time.  He toyed with Spassky in the World Championship Match in 1972.

By the way, in the 1976 U.S. Open in Fairfax, VA, I drew in the 2nd round with a guy who had beaten Petrosian in a simultaneous exhibition.  My performance claim to fame!  GM Leonid Shamkovich watched while I made several key moves of one of my OTB tournament games, but my opponent was a very pretty woman with a low-cut dress, so I don't think he was paying much attention to my skills!

Where are you getting all of those ratings from? They all look like they're about 100 points higher than what they should be.

fabelhaft

The Chessmetrics ratings are much higher than Elo ratings, so not only 45-year-old Taimanov looks a bit better than with Elo. These ratings stopped being updated 15 years ago, otherwise Carlsen would probably be #1 on many Chessmetrics lists.

fabelhaft
WhatAbuotBob wrote:

Yea, pretty much all the great dead chess players had more fight in them. They didn't sit around playing computer drawish chess moves waiting for their opponent to blunder like Carlsen does.

Well, they had much more time for their moves, frequent adjournments, and didn’t have to wait for their opponents to blunder :-)

fabelhaft

Tal had 168 draws in 15 moves or less since he turned 20, by the way, Carlsen has 0 after turning 14...

Richard_Hunter

I don't think so.I never quite get why people rate Tal as some kind of uber genius when he was only the World Champion for a year.