In chess knowledge is power

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"GM has a better understand than an IM" - Seirawan, 2005

"I understand how any living player thinks except Karpov."-Spassky, 1970

So I wonder.. Does a player class above knows something important or many small amounts of knowledge that a player class below does not know? Does chess genius Carlsen knows something no one knows yet?

vowles_23

That last quote is a good one...did you make it up? I like it!

get_over_here
vowles_23 wrote:

That last quote is a good one...did you make it up? I like it!


I found the original one for you: "I can't play with you because I don't understand the way you play or your train of thought.  -  (to Karpov)".

http://www.chessquotes.com/player-spassky

vowles_23

No, no! I meant the last:

"So I wonder.. Does a player class above knows something important or many small amounts of knowledge that a player class below does not know? Does chess genius Carlsen knows something no one knows yet?"

I like that one! But thanks anyway! So was that you talking there? :D

get_over_here

Emm, yeah? It`s nothing special. It`s from experience. When I went from B to A Class I learned some stuff I did`t know back then I was B Class, now I am Expert because I know things I did`t know when I was A Class(+ became better at certain things too of course-discipline). Also starting from Steinitz to Kasparov (and probably further) each chess genius discovered something about chess no one before him did, or upgaded the common understanding of that time about particular part of chess. You see the pattern, right?

"When I was a child I started to discover chess`s secrets, it was amazing"-Carlsen.

I don`t believe the crap about his intuition. In fact there is no such thing. There is something he knows no one else does. And one can`t learn it from just watching his games. Nethere can computer tell. But that`s not why he is the best in the world, he has big talent for chess. I see talent as "analysing capacity", there are so many things to observe on each move. The position changes with each move.

very often in analyses room Carlsen would say about a certain move "I did`t like it". Then the commentator would try to say that it looks good, computers agree. Then again Carlsen says" Well, I did`t like it". ONE OF THE SECRETS/TRICKS ABOUT CHESS THAT HE USES tells him it`s not good. Not his intuition. But of course he will just say "I did`t like it." It`s not like he wants to tell or raise roumers like I did about chess secrets.

szammie
get_over_here wrote: So I wonder.. Does a player class above knows something important or many small amounts of knowledge that a player class below does not know? Does chess genius Carlsen knows something no one knows yet?

 The answer 2 that/this is yes; that player: Knows Themself! They know themself, better than any1, except God (their creator, etc..). The individual is constantly evolving, either 4 better or worse.  This statement: "I understand how any living player thinks except Karpov."-Spassky, 1970, implies that, Spassky may knew Karpov, been around him, formally (whatever), but never really knew him as an individual; what drove him; how his mind works, etc... . 

Carlsen's knowledge, expertise, of the game comes from (within) him.  & unless this is Inception, no real man with power will tell u his secrets, knowledge; give u his source of power. 

Carlsen, may b strong, but there r others who r stronger than him; so what do they know?  They know themselves!  This is the ultimate knowledge/power, that we, as chess players, & individuals have Wink!

SZ.

get_over_here

Chess is much more. Hehe. When I got my first girlfriend it took 2 years to understand a woman. Chess took me 10 years.

vowles_23
echecs06 wrote:

chess is as much a mystery as women-Purdy


 Trust a chess player to say that :D

get_over_here
vowles_23 wrote:
echecs06 wrote:

chess is as much a mystery as women-Purdy


 Trust a chess player to say that :D


 hahaha

Sceadungen

Those who progress at chess have not always discovered more about chess, rather more about themselves.

get_over_here

I discovered that hss is rather boring a few days ago. that says something about my f progress